CHR Helms/Items for Sorcerers

[Tekill]

Lochonnow and I have noticed that there is a +4 Int helm in the Thayan Enclave and the epic shop has the Circlet of Mages which gives spell slots and plus +3 int.
But what is there for sorcerers?
Is there, or should the Sorc not get access to the same or similar items?

[blowuup]

There are gloves that gives +4 Charisma on the Darius Merchant.

[Blame The Rogue]

but it takes up a different slot, which can make or break an "outfit"/gear setup. int 4 helms exist, and were mentioned above, and wisdom 4 helms are sold in CK. imo, those gloves could, and should, be replaced by a chr 4 helm

[Lockonnow]

the story about the word Mage is a Pack Between wizard and sorcerer so there will be peace Between them one could make a great movie story about it if so but that is another story

[Lockonnow]

it is not the + 4 int item it is the helm call Circlet of Mages and there no one that powerfull for the sorcerer and as long it call Mages it sould have the same Special Properties to a sorcerer

[blowuup]

but it takes up a different slot, which can make or break an "outfit"/gear setup. int 4 helms exist, and were mentioned above, and wisdom 4 helms are sold in CK. imo, those gloves could, and should, be replaced by a chr 4 helm

+1!

I would like a +4 CHA Helm so that I could wear the Arcanist's gloves from the Epic Shop on my sorcerer.
I feel like only right that all the mental stats be available on a Helm rather than just 2.

I think the difference is that those "reliable" +4 items are guild store items, which players designed specifically. You can't expect a guild to change their item because it fits your build better. If you're building around the +4 stat items you're pretty much either hoping for really good RIG luck or what's on the server.

That's interesting. I didn't know it was the Guilds who developed the shops, I automatically assumed it was the developers.

[Winterborne]

When making the item originally we wanted to put it in another slot but were told we could not, so that people who use EDM could not easily wear a +4 CHA and +4 STR item. So now the STR and CHA +4 store items use the same slot.

[Ewe]

If it's not a nymph cloak, then it's not a correct CHA item. Also who even says CHR and not CHA, get out of here!

[Tekill]

If it's not a nymph cloak, then it's not a correct CHA item. Also who even says CHR and not CHA, get out of here!

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[c2k]

Aside from gloves and cloaks, I think you can find CHA +4 on belts as well. I know I have seen a few in the past.

[Lockonnow]

well i think you can find any item with Cha +4

[Raivana]

Well.. We were hoping at the Halls to get our own merchant and one of the proposed items we would sell would be a +4 charisma mask/helmet.. So perhaps in the not so distant future

[DM SummerBreeze]

There are discernably far less items geared toward use by a sorcerer than there are wizards, in general, not just this example. In my personal opinion. Sorcerers get very little love.

[Planehopper]

Well.. We were hoping at the Halls to get our own merchant and one of the proposed items we would sell would be a +4 charisma mask/helmet.. So perhaps in the not so distant future

Rocky Creek was told "no epic items" so unless that only applied to us and not others, I wouldn't make any solid plans for this.

We had to appeal a denial on a survival bonus fishing pole. Items are being monitored a lot closer on newer shops.

[AlwaysSummer Day]

I think the Kraak Helzak merchant is grandfathered in from a time when +3 with no other bonuses was considered top tier merchant gear. Now it is a bit of a joke. Other merchants seem to have nearly all items +4 with other goodies.