Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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Here is a suggestion: like Assassins spellbook qualifies for Arcane Archer reqs., designate the Blackguard spellbook as Divine, and allow to fulfill the reqs of Darkfire Disciple. Or, any Divine spell reqs, really (optional).

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I love it.
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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Gonna admit, I initially thought by "DD reqs" it meant Dragon Disciple!

That aside, I think this is a great idea, give some more functionality/uses to a class rarely ever used!
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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I would love to see BG and Assassin upon up for casting specific classes, such as paladin and ranger.

It would give a much greater diversity and especially give blackguard some more reason to be picked other than a splash class
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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until the BG spell book receives some much needed improvements, any discussion about making it qualify for divine prcs is moot. unless playing a gimp is actually what you're after.

EDIT: I can actually see hospitaler/bg as being a powerful albeit not at all thematically sound combo
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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I find the BG spellbook quite solid and thematically quite adequate looking the at the spells.

It just needs reasons to be worth taking 10 levels of. I would argue that any other 10 level PrC actually something awesome to the table whilst BG is used for 3-4 levels then scrapped
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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The BG spell ook at least needs the same upgrade as the Assassin’s spellbook, where the CL is made artificially greater, than vanilla.
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At 2nd level, the Assassin gains a spellbook, spells require a base Intelligence score of 10+spell level to be cast and can be picked in that list.

NOTE ON ASSASSIN CASTER LEVELS: Caster level calculation for Assassin is: Assassin levels + (non-Assassin levels/2) = Caster Level. So a level 30 character with 8 or 9 Assassin levels will have CL19 while a level 30 PC with 10 Assassin levels will have CL20. Dragonslayer counts up to 6 of its levels as assassin levels, as per its optional assassin spell progression. For example a 10 rogue 10 assassin 10 Dragonslayer would have CL26.

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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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Steve wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:57 am The BG spell ook at least needs the same upgrade as the Assassin’s spellbook, where the CL is made artificially greater, than vanilla.
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At 2nd level, the Assassin gains a spellbook, spells require a base Intelligence score of 10+spell level to be cast and can be picked in that list.

NOTE ON ASSASSIN CASTER LEVELS: Caster level calculation for Assassin is: Assassin levels + (non-Assassin levels/2) = Caster Level. So a level 30 character with 8 or 9 Assassin levels will have CL19 while a level 30 PC with 10 Assassin levels will have CL20. Dragonslayer counts up to 6 of its levels as assassin levels, as per its optional assassin spell progression. For example a 10 rogue 10 assassin 10 Dragonslayer would have CL26.
It needs more than that, it needs actually good spells. Blackguard is a very mechanically confused class; remove their lame ass summons and sneak attack and replace them with a workable (aka 30 CL) spell book. Or at least give players that choice a la Kpack Elite Commando where you can choose a 'path' for your blackguard.
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Re: Suggestion: BG spellbook set as Divine, qualifies for DD reqs.

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I’m all for even a Blackguard 30 that is a mesh between Anti-Paladin and MaA.

But, Blackguard exists as a PrC already, albeit with a much greater spellbook in terms of choices.

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