monthly favored enemy repick [ranger QOL]

[EasternCheesE]

Well, in contrary, it sounds quite logical that one hunting endgame mobs and not hunting early mobs loses one skill and gains another since he/she practice on other targets. But, since there is no mechanical way to make the process steep instead of sudden "forget A and start hatin B", the moment of switch sounds very OOC. So far, the idea of once per 3 months and also xp cost seems to be the most balanced, to my taste as it will requite a PC to actually rp losing a level or two (or more on lower levels).

[WobbleTop]

I have the impression that veterans and newbies alike do swap feats back and forth like they were candy, merely due to how the game server works.
Is it not true that even the newest players merely copy a well made build, wich by design often are meant for endgame to begin with, and then merely swap around any hiccups that appear, untill you actually hit level 30?

Even more so with the general RCR system and the occasional 100% rcrs for level 30 characters, whose combat gameplay merely got samey or stale, or that new updated feat came out.

My thought that I am trying to get to is that it feels like the IC characters themselves have become their personalities and their connections rather than their stats.
I do get the point of play-your-sheet, but such things only ever become and "feel" relevant if a DM is present. If not for the authority, then merely for the sake of actually being able to interact and have things happen in turn. This never happens with the grinding and stats otherwise, and most parties go fast and kill fast because it is the most efficient way to get exp and that space usually has no room for any true interactive RP, since here the experience/loot that pops up is the true tangiable interaction, with a real tangiable response that makes your character tangiably "progress".

As it is said, those very stats and feats only truly "feel" that they matter when you either are in combat, or a DM is present. So it might just become natural to build towards that.

If not in combat, you usually just use writing for the RP and such cases they often get completely detatched from the stats and combat.
Huh. Did I have a point?

Yeha. It was something along the lines of if you do not RP the feats explicitly with text, forum posts or DM events those favoured enemies could swap back and forth many times without anyone caring or noticing.
My point is that I get the impression such things are done all the time even with more RP-damning feats due to how the persistent nwn server works.
In real pnp "true" and "real" interaction would happen all the time and the stats and character bulding from level 1 would matter much more, especially outside combat, due to the tangiable interactivity and response with every move you make.

Uh. I just wanted to write things. I am either or for the suggestion itself.

[JustAnotherGuy]

I am of the opinion that any RCR of a toon (whether 100% or not) should be done to bring the toon in line with current RP, and not to change the RP. I feel the same way about this proposal. In other words, the RP should precede the change, not come after it. I've seen my share of "WTF?" RP moments, where someone had to justify a sudden change with their RP, and this is totally backwards.

For instance: we had a large scale plot with demons/undead/yuan-ti. If a ranger were to have fought them over and over, and then switched a favored enemy to one or all of those, I'm all for that. But if they saw, "Uh oh, there's going to be a lot of undead/demons/yuan-ti" and switched their FE so that they could be more effective against them, I'm against that.

In conclusion, I'm against the free repicks, because it leaves us with two options:
1. Yet another unpoliced free change that is easily abused and hurts other people's immersion (some would use it responsibly, and some wouldn't).
2. We set it with DM supervision, adding to their already high workload.

For now, we have what I think is a perfectly reasonable alternative. The current RCR system. Especially if we look at the "retraining time" in the source that Hoihe posted. To change a feat would be 2 weeks retraining. If you also change a single skill, now that's 3 weeks. Change more than that, and it piles up. So it seems like the "retraining" the RCR gives is actually perfectly in line with PnP on this aspect.

With that being said, if a person showed clear RP that they were working towards for a long enough time (in any case, not just this one), I'd be fine with them receiving a free rebuild to change their toon to reflect current RP. Again, that's assuming the RP came first.

[yyj]

I would say no.

I am playing a ranger right now and the roleplaying behind favored enemies is amazing. My ranger has fav enemy giants and she hunts trolls the most since she is from trollbark forest and there is so much rp behind this that I would never think of changing it.

In real life you just don't forget skills like this and relearn something in place of it.

Spells are different because wizards, well its obvious they can do that whenever in pnp, sorcs bards and ss I am not sure but a ranger picks like 6 or 8 favored enemies but those clases have a lot of spells.

Again, I reiterate, ranger favored enemy is an integral part of the roleplay of the class and changing it at will once a month is way too OOC and mechanical and only hinders roleplay.

[mrm3ntalist]

Can i change my domains every couple of weeks then to make sure im getting the right spells to deal with the right areas too?

It depends who you are, whom you ask and how close you are with the decision makers. "Little things" such as Sorcerer/Warlock monthly spell swapper, one additional known spell for sorcerers, have already taken place

[EasternCheesE]

While that is partially true and elitism exists in real world, i still believe, it's hard to convince QC, Devs and DMs on topics that don't have really good explanation and "everybody wins" from it reasoned arguments
As opinions are split with some people thinking it's a good idea and some thinking it's not, one single "friendly voice" won't help to outweight other option.
My own vision is that it can be allowed and gated behind some few month long RP (like reading books on those particular creatures, practicing, working and learning from those who have that FE etc).
So, i more see it as "reviewed by application" with proofs someone actually did more than just "hit a button to unlearn gobbos and learn dragons".

[mrm3ntalist]

While that is partially true and elitism exists in real world, i still believe, it's hard to convince QC, Devs and DMs on topics that don't have really good explanation and "everybody wins" from it reasoned arguments
As opinions are split with some people thinking it's a good idea and some thinking it's not, one single "friendly voice" won't help to outweight other option.

Aweee , that is very refreshing and cute to hear. Talk again in a year