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Bard 26 / Rogue 4. Or Bard 26 / Blackguard 4.

But if you liked Monk, go for Monk 20 / Divine Champion 10. Or as a variation on the theme, as in RP, Monk 20 / Cleric 3 / Sacred Fist 7.

Honestly, unless intentional, one can easily take on 80-90% of the PvE content with any build...at least, as long as you're not soloing.

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If you've soloed everything already, then your only choice is to go down...as in, choose a not very good build, or maximized build, and try and play the game with that challenge in mind.

Also...F'N NERF MASTER ALCHEMIST ELIXIRS NOW!!!!

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Because it is fun! Duh.

Not everyone is maximizing their builds. The reality is plenty of players choose to "downgrade" in order to fit in Feats, Skills, Abilities that reflect the Character idea they have in mind, to support the role-play via "play your Sheet" provides.

But simply, if you've already gone and built yourself a PC that solo'd everything, I don't think anyone out there is going to give you advice that you're not already capable of generating on your own.

Another way to look at it, is this: think up a Character idea, then build to fit that idea. Whatever comes out, you play. See how far you get! The fun can be found in that, seeing what a build can do, and learning its limitations, trying to overcome those, either by tactics or by collecting gear to create the "sweet spot" that makes the build work, in terms of mechanics.

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A Hateful Drow wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:14 pm If you can handle OP monsters, you can handle PVP, and you won't PVP too much tbh.
sort of.... not quite, but yes all the same.
After years of trying to give others a chance to prove to me they can shape up here, I have run out of patience. The numbers of nwn2 overall dropping in the past few years have told me the path others truly want to take. Actions speak louder than words.

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Speaking of build ideas:

I wanted to get my moonblade cleric to work, but since the divine power nerf I cant get it back to its former glory. Either dual wield, single blade + shield bash or single blade + animal companion. It works well as a tank, can pierce any DR but its dps are on the low side.
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A Hateful Drow wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:48 pm I just analised the data they all shared in common to improve it …
Go onto NWN2DB.com. Analyze what’s there, then. It seems like you’re just asking for someone to feed you an uber build because you’re dissatisfied at the moment. Part of the fun IS getting creative. Give it a go.

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Kalgain wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:34 pm Speaking of build ideas:

I wanted to get my moonblade cleric to work, but since the divine power nerf I cant get it back to its former glory. Either dual wield, single blade + shield bash or single blade + animal companion. It works well as a tank, can pierce any DR but its dps are on the low side.
The thing about it is that moonblade literally deals ~100 dmg a round to anyone. It's not fast killer, but you simply don't care what AC/dr enemy has in 95% of cases, you just hit and you just... land it.
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You could try monk 25 and shadow dancer 5. Go DEX based and take expose weakness and you get epic dodge. I have solo much of the server except the white dragon, honestly haven't tried it yet. I am currently level 28. Your AC is high enough with epic dodge to survive a lot. You also have HIPS for those casters that spam and dispel.

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This monk build might sound op on paper, but it loses out on style points. I saw this once in action, looks so ridiculous. So in total it might be balanced :D
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A Hateful Drow wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:18 pm
thepaganking wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:18 am You could try monk 25 and shadow dancer 5. Go DEX based and take expose weakness and you get epic dodge. I have solo much of the server except the white dragon, honestly haven't tried it yet. I am currently level 28. Your AC is high enough with epic dodge to survive a lot. You also have HIPS for those casters that spam and dispel.

TPK.
What I may try is an old pvp build that I think it's no longer public but that had a lot of votes. It was a sacred fist with divine damage and greater flurry that uses mithral armor and heavy shield. It's basically a build made for max power but it's fun one you leveled it up.
The armor and shield part does not work on BG anymore. It was fixed a long time ago, maybe a decade - shit i am getting old. Monk20/Cleric3/SF7 is one of the best solo builds. With consumables and cleric scrolls it can solo almost everything - literally everything with spec gear
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A Hateful Drow wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:57 pm
It doesn't use the old Sacred Fist bug to get the AC. The build explained the real AC of the build without the bug. Sacred Fist is used just because of the high BAB instead of medium and the 8/10 CL. Otherwsie would drop sacred fist completely for another class.
That's a really interesting idea. But how does this build get any better AC than, say, a pure cleric while using a heavy shield and mithril armor? Since all sacred fist and monk AC bonuses are disabled. Dex'er or divine shield is the only answer I can come up with, and divine shield's duration leaves a lot to be desired.
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Best build is the one that brings 2-3 friends with complementing skill sets. Be good at one thing and have your friends be good at the other. Everyone wins
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mastajabba wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:39 pm Best build is the one that brings 2-3 friends with complementing skill sets. Be good at one thing and have your friends be good at the other. Everyone wins
Well, sometimes, numbers themself make thing way more manageable but not taking the risks away. Many think rogues can't solo or require a tank to keep mobs busy. Then we played as 3 rogues in UD from around lvl 16 up to 30. It was hard, we died a lot, but that was a good challenge where we had to think, had to work together and it didn't make things just too simple. Yeah, encounters were done in mere rounds with us splitting targets, using traps, taunting etc. And used to end up with some of us dead/retreating when things didn't work right as planned. It was hell of fun and while it made things way easier, we never felt overpowered. We totally had to think, to plan and to retreat if it was suddenly turning out being too hot. Oh, one more thing. It wasn't very fast too. We totally went hunting CR 26 area with lvl 20 rogues cause loot and challenge. We were spending minutes to set traps and prepare ourselves when we were facing 3+ mobs in same place.
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A Hateful Drow wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:03 am
mastajabba wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:39 pm Best build is the one that brings 2-3 friends with complementing skill sets. Be good at one thing and have your friends be good at the other. Everyone wins
Why not a group that is the best they can at everything they can
Because this is a social game. If everyone is awesome at everything then it’s just a race to who gets to what first.

If you have a well balanced group. The rogue can do the traps, locks, aid with sneak attacks. The tank can draw Aggro and with his high AC hold the attention of most of the mobs. The spell caster can support with spells for the group. Gives everyone the opportunity to shine.

I think you think this game more a Diablo type game than the social role play it is. If your characters are build because of a mix of classes gives a %AB AC% ect ect boost over anything you will not get the full experience of Dungeon and Dragons.
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