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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:40 am I really like the turn X creature that some domains have. That is a great addition. Will existing clerics get the additional feats or an RCR is going to be needed?
I believe existing clerics will get the additional feats? They will need take a level though to gain the spells (so drop to 29 with the exp remover, then level back up to 30).
Steve wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:54 pm What happens when 2 months from now a player logs in for the first time since the Domains are changed, and they have an “illegal” build? Will they be prompted to re-pick, or will they need DM intervention to get out the Nexus?
They'll be able to ask a DM for 100% tokens.
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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I like these new complete and less redundant domains.

Thank you Rhifox.
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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The only domain that gives a pet companion is Animal?
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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joleda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:27 pm The only domain that gives a pet companion is Animal?
Yes. Though I have debated giving Animal Companion to Spider for spider companion.
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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Rhifox wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:36 pm
joleda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:27 pm The only domain that gives a pet companion is Animal?
Yes. Though I have debated giving Animal Companion to Spider for spider companion.
How could an Orc Cleric buff the AC of its animal pet?
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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Reviewing the domains, I have noticed that some domains appear to receive once-per-day powers, while others receive cooldown powers.

was there a method behind which got uncapped uses and which ones got 1/day?
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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joleda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:09 pm
Rhifox wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:36 pm
joleda wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:27 pm The only domain that gives a pet companion is Animal?
Yes. Though I have debated giving Animal Companion to Spider for spider companion.
How could an Orc Cleric buff the AC of its animal pet?
I'm not sure what you mean? No orc gods get Animal domain.

If you mean, how does someone with Animal domain buff their companion's AC? Well, very easy to get mage armor or improved mage armor wands.
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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Kitunenotsume wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:18 pm Reviewing the domains, I have noticed that some domains appear to receive once-per-day powers, while others receive cooldown powers.

was there a method behind which got uncapped uses and which ones got 1/day?
Generally anything that lasts for only a couple of rounds (like Battle Master's 5 rounds + Cha mod) received a cooldown. Anything that lasts round/CL or more is once per day.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:32 pm
matelener wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:26 pmI don't think there are that many adamantium DR bosses but let's keep it in mind.
White Dragon, Opponents that cast Ethereal visage, Stoneskin and Gr, Stone body ( Frost King), Premonition - Obviously some can be bypassed over time (spells) but considering that when shifted you will not have access to umd or consumables it becomes problematic over time

Between bosses needing different weapon damage types and weapon types, in addition to not being able to use consumables and umd to at least make up for some damage or sustain, shifter builds will have serious problems end-game and will only have the cool effect going
NVM I was told that that when shifting to the mastered shapes, there is no limit like a wildshape uses or cooldown timer, so this prc now moved to the OP side of things. Basically you can keep getting out of shape, use umd, heals etc and get back into the shape with no restrictions whatsoever. This on top of the regen ( you can stack 10regen per round - 3from shifter + 6 from Fast healing +1+ from items - , 15 with ogre magi), the AC you can get on top of the consumable usage, makes the PRC broken....

Was this even tested?
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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Clerics with animal domain can pick the humanoid companion and all cleric buffs will work on it. You're welcome.

This is very good work, Rhifox.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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I hope to high heavens that this class doesn't get pre-nerfed due to too many voiced "concerns" and come dead on arrival. I'm way too excited to end up getting a class that'll work as well as a techsmith.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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The_Sorting_Hat wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:23 pm I hope to high heavens that this class doesn't get pre-nerfed due to too many voiced "concerns" and come dead on arrival. I'm way too excited to end up getting a class that'll work as well as a techsmith.
You will not be the only one playing this PRC. I already have two characters with XP stored to get them all the way to 30. Many - if not all - other players will do the same if this PRC stays this powerful.
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Re: Coming Soon: Domains Rework and New Domains (Split 1.2)

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Humanoid companion... Herne has the Animal domain as a Half-Orc / Orc god if I'm reading the document correctly.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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I'd much rather see many shifters out of the gate enjoying themselves than everyone being dissapointed and no one playing them.
Even if its on pair with the current powerful builds, people picking up the class for mechanical might will eventually move on to the next flavour of the month powerbuild. And i see absolutely nothing wrong with another contender to the current established handfull of builds that can already solo the server. So unless those are also brought down, theres no sense destroying the shifter before it even gets here.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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The_Sorting_Hat wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:50 pm I'd much rather see many shifters out of the gate enjoying themselves than everyone being dissapointed and no one playing them.
Even if its on pair with the current powerful builds, people picking up the class for mechanical might will eventually move on to the next flavour of the month powerbuild. And i see absolutely nothing wrong with another contender to the current established handfull of builds that can already solo the server. So unless those are also brought down, theres no sense destroying the shifter before it even gets here.
I dont think there are any builds that can get 10+Regen, 10DR, 40+AB, 55+AC, 26STR for damage... If you do, please share
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