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Re: Coming Soon: Self-concealment requirements changes

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Awesome! :D

Since this feat still requires character level 27, how many times can this be selected and still be legal for 3b20?
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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I agree, the dragon druid is much stronger than the shifter. But on the other hand, was not the common assumption that new classes should be aligned in strength more with pure ranger or pala? I also prefer to play classes that are stonger, so I just choose to play dragon druid :D.
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Theodore01 wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:49 pm Type of feat: General, Epic
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Since this feat still requires character level 27, how many times can this be selected and still be legal for 3b20?
4 for 40% with rogue levels.
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Re: Coming Soon: Self-concealment requirements changes

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Usually, that means you can fit in 2 feats, at levels 27th and 29th.

But, rogues or monks can squeeze in one more on bonus feats (some rogues can do 40%). Don't think any other class can access them on bonus feats.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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I guess neither of you played a Epic Elemental Shape yet?

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Re: Coming Soon: Self-concealment requirements changes

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Two standard Epic Feats at levels 27 and 29, and two bonus Rogue feats at Rogue levels 16 and 19? Is this correct?
Level 27: Rogue 16 -- two SC's from character level 27 and Rogue level 16
Level 28: Rogue 17
Level 29: Rogue 18 -- one SC from character level 29
Level 30: Rogue 19 -- one SC from Rogue level 19
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joleda wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:15 pm Two standard Epic Feats at levels 27 and 29, and two bonus Rogue feats at Rogue levels 16 and 19? Is this correct?
Level 27: Rogue 16 -- two SC's from character level 27 and Rogue level 16
Level 28: Rogue 17
Level 29: Rogue 18 -- one SC from character level 29
Level 30: Rogue 19 -- one SC from Rogue level 19
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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Does Pixie's sneak attack dices stack with sneak dices from other classes?
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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Theodore01 wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:28 pm Does Pixie's sneak attack dices stack with sneak dices from other classes?
It doesn't
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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This does seem to be going down the exact same route as the Polymorph changes when they came out. You don't see many shapeshifting wizards around, despite all the work that went into the changes and the new forms, do you.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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Mirage wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:51 pm This does seem to be going down the exact same route as the Polymorph changes when they came out. You don't see many shapeshifting wizards around, despite all the work that went into the changes and the new forms, do you.
I will start by saying that this community is great - really - and that is why I have been around for 10 years. With that said the majority are not particularly involved with mechanics - most of them do not care, which is totally fine. This is not supposed a CoD or Dota type of game that you are after tea-bugging others. The only reason polymorph is not used much is because of lack of trying and some bugs that have to do with polymorph. You can make a build centered around polymorph that will be able to solo most of the server's content.

There were players like Karond, Molag_bal, Aelcar/invoker and many others that could use the game mechanics and create builds that will make jaws drop.
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:00 pm There were players like Karond, Molag_bal, Aelcar/invoker and many others that could use the game mechanics and create builds that will make jaws drop.
But of course, everything powerbuilt comes with a sacrifice!! 8-)

But yeah, comparing Polymorph/Shapechange to Shifter "nerfs" or any sort of inability, isn't that correct, imho. I mean, the name of the game with powerbuilds is squeezing out every last bit of angle/power possible, and if you build correctly for utilizing Shapechange, it is really, REALLY strong.

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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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Steve wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:14 pmBut of course, everything powerbuilt comes with a sacrifice!! 8-)
Ye, you kind of sell your soul to the devil :lol: :lol:
They way warlocks do and get Eldritch Spear and are able to solo bosses from distance without agroing :violin:

EDIT: I believe you made a polymorph warlock build that is very strong, correct?
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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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Re: Coming Soon: Shifter PRC

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mrm3ntalist wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:18 pm

EDIT: I believe you made a polymorph warlock build that is very strong, correct?
Yep. It was kinda my first real effort to powerbuild, but luckily, it's power lies in CHA, so I feel like I have some backup to the RP. But, even though it was a powerbuild, I still had a lot to learn in how to play it. That took some time, learning as I leveled up. But once you get that OOC knowledge, it is amazing.

And really, player knowledge is the most OP part of any NWN2 server, and just most games in general. Learning the mechanics IS part of the game, and often very, very fun. It's just always not necessary to have a good time.

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