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Class combinations :)

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Why are some class combinations blocked? As if it was done on purpose. For example; the combination of s.buckler+w.dervish+t.acrobat+w.master does not always get important features by 1 level difference. Not just this combination, there are many. Whoever is setting these up, let me draw your attention; the s.buckler+w.dervish+duelist+w.master combination works well. This combination can also be broken. :D
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Sinsi:Sneaker
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Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
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SneakWalker wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:26 am Why are some class combinations blocked?
Help me understand your question. What's preventing someone from combining Swashbuckler with W. Dervish, Thief Acrobat, and Weapon Master?
SneakWalker wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:26 am let me draw your attention; the s.buckler+w.dervish+duelist+w.master combination works well
How do you compensate for the low progression of Will Saves?

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MrSmith wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:54 am Help me understand your question. What's preventing someone from combining Swashbuckler with W. Dervish, Thief Acrobat, and Weapon Master?
Either you give up w.master’s ki critical, or w.dervish's defensive roll or thief acrobat's i.evasion for not getting an epic dodge, or s.buckler's e.precision.
SneakWalker wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:26 am let me draw your attention; the s.buckler+w.dervish+duelist+w.master combination works well
When I said it “works well”, I didn't mean “it's perfect”. :D

I meant the feats given by the classes.
Utku(Me):Feinter
Rfath:Scyther
Frath:Warlock
Berath:Priest
Sinsi:Sneaker
Longolin:Tank
Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
Kaya:EDM Barb
Yukecell:Barb
Pusucu:Sniper
Fisdalus:Necro
Claudius:Cru
Gildor:CoC
Tathar:BS
June:Daggercaster
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SneakWalker wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:09 am
MrSmith wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:54 am Help me understand your question. What's preventing someone from combining Swashbuckler with W. Dervish, Thief Acrobat, and Weapon Master?
Either you give up w.master’s ki critical, or w.dervish's defensive roll or thief acrobat's i.evasion for not getting an epic dodge, or s.buckler's e.precision.
SneakWalker wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:26 am let me draw your attention; the s.buckler+w.dervish+duelist+w.master combination works well
When I said it “works well”, I didn't mean “it's perfect”. :D

I meant the feats given by the classes.
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Well, the only thing that blocks you from certain builds is 3b20 rule and a need to take min. 3 level dips. Nothing else prevents you for anything aside from that (within existing class restrictions, of course, since some PrCs are race/alignment restricted).
I saw dozen of people playing late bloomers because they had to just pick all their PRC levels before 20, but at 30, their builds shined.
3b20 doesn't offer very big limitations on a PC normally, much less that "3 level dips minimum", but they both make things more... Dunno, realistic?
I always felt that having rogue 1 while barb 29 would look meh. I know, such things do exist in the lore, but to me, 1 lvl in any class is similar to "14 day intensive learn X bootcamp" where one can't be even called a rogue or wizard cause they were just taught the very basics.
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EasternCheesE wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:25 am 3b20 doesn't offer very big limitations on a PC normally, much less [than] "3 level dips minimum", but they both make things more... Dunno, realistic?
I agree. I believe 3b20 is fair and contributes to a better community and server experience.

If you disagree and have 5 minutes, consider this link time well spent - https://www.happyandauthentic.com/the-k ... -equality/

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MrSmith wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:34 pm If you disagree and have 5 minutes, consider this link time well spent - https://www.happyandauthentic.com/the-k ... -equality/

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Did you share this link for me?
Utku(Me):Feinter
Rfath:Scyther
Frath:Warlock
Berath:Priest
Sinsi:Sneaker
Longolin:Tank
Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
Kaya:EDM Barb
Yukecell:Barb
Pusucu:Sniper
Fisdalus:Necro
Claudius:Cru
Gildor:CoC
Tathar:BS
June:Daggercaster
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Was an interesting read to me no matter for whom they shared the link :)
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EasternCheesE wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:37 am Was an interesting read to me no matter for whom they shared the link :)
If you noticed, he said "if you disagree". He didn't say anything like "look, I'm putting a nice link, everyone can read it". Even if he said it that way, it is meaningful. It is obvious that he said it in a meaningful way, but I want to hear from him to whom he wants to say.
Utku(Me):Feinter
Rfath:Scyther
Frath:Warlock
Berath:Priest
Sinsi:Sneaker
Longolin:Tank
Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
Kaya:EDM Barb
Yukecell:Barb
Pusucu:Sniper
Fisdalus:Necro
Claudius:Cru
Gildor:CoC
Tathar:BS
June:Daggercaster
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A far greater limitation is the cap of 30 levels in a class! :lol:
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YYA wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:10 am A far greater limitation is the cap of 30 levels in a class! :lol:
Exactly!!! That's another big problem anyway. I don't understand why they don't make 40!?
Utku(Me):Feinter
Rfath:Scyther
Frath:Warlock
Berath:Priest
Sinsi:Sneaker
Longolin:Tank
Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
Kaya:EDM Barb
Yukecell:Barb
Pusucu:Sniper
Fisdalus:Necro
Claudius:Cru
Gildor:CoC
Tathar:BS
June:Daggercaster
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Why have cap at all! :lol:
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YYA wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:25 am Why have cap at all! :lol:
You say we should all hang out in god mod? :D
Utku(Me):Feinter
Rfath:Scyther
Frath:Warlock
Berath:Priest
Sinsi:Sneaker
Longolin:Tank
Dehset:GFK
Deli:Psycho
Sheybe:Zen
Eärfalas:Archer
Lynx:Ninja
Sehhar:Helllock
Murath:Bladelock
Kaya:EDM Barb
Yukecell:Barb
Pusucu:Sniper
Fisdalus:Necro
Claudius:Cru
Gildor:CoC
Tathar:BS
June:Daggercaster
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SneakWalker wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:04 am
MrSmith wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:34 pm If you disagree and have 5 minutes, consider this link time well spent - https://www.happyandauthentic.com/the-k ... -equality/

Cheers!
Did you share this link for me?
No. I shared the link for anyone who, after reading my post, clings to the belief 3b20 is unfair or makes the server a horrible place to play. Under these conditions, the video is designed to challenge the individual's underlying beliefs by offering them an alternative point of view.
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