Just stumbled onto this in OOC spell research. As it is, on BGTSCC Anyspell (from the Spell Domain) is a Level 5 spell slot and Greater Anyspell is a Level 8 spell slot, yet according to The Books, Anyspell should be:
Anyspell allows you to read and prepare any arcane spell of up to 2nd level ... The prepared spell occupies your 3rd-level domain spell slot.
And Greater Anyspell is:
This spell functions like anyspell, except you can read and prepare any arcane spell of up to 5th level, and the prepared spell occupies your 6th-level domain spell slot.
Any chance this can be corrected? Or, is there reasoning to keep it so high in the spellbook? Cheers.
Hi Steve! I dug into this and found out that back in 2015, there was a lively debate in the QC forums about whether to include certain powerful spells in the game for our server. As a compromise, the domain spell level for Anyspell and Greater Anyspell was intentionally adjusted from the PnP rules. The decision-making process involved input from Endelyon, Rasasel, and Karond during QC forum posts and IRC chats (I don't have record of the IRC chats). While it’s been nearly ten years since that decision, there hasn’t been any recent reevaluation.
Ewe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:04 am
Hi Steve! I dug into this and found out that back in 2015, there was a lively debate in the QC forums about whether to include certain powerful spells in the game for our server. As a compromise, the domain spell level for Anyspell and Greater Anyspell was intentionally adjusted from the PnP rules. The decision-making process involved input from Endelyon, Rasasel, and Karond during QC forum posts and IRC chats (I don't have record of the IRC chats). While it’s been nearly ten years since that decision, there hasn’t been any recent reevaluation.
Thanks for looking into it!
Maybe I’m missing something, but the only difference besides access is CL applied to the casting, which is higher (and higher now IG, where I’m asking it to be lowered).
I’ll go out on a limb to assume there was a debate about letting Clerics have access to the Mage Spellbook, making Clerics MORE POWERFUL than Mages because of Anyspell inclusion. Plus, by bumping up the spell slot, it means likely less castings available.
Maybe these concerns are no longer warranted? Cheers.
In DnD 3.5e, when it comes to domain spells, you can’t fill all your spell slots with domain spells. The limitation is that you can only prepare one domain spell per spell level. So, even if a domain grants you multiple spells for a particular level, you can only choose one of them to prepare. This ensures that domain spells don’t dominate your entire spellcasting repertoire, allowing for a balance between domain-specific magic and other spells.
However, in nwn2 you can fill up an entire spell level with domain spells if you wish there's no restrictions here.
So it's that in combination with how powerful it is to give clerics access to arcane spells.
Ewe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:30 am
In DnD 3.5e, when it comes to domain spells, you can’t fill all your spell slots with domain spells. The limitation is that you can only prepare one domain spell per spell level. So, even if a domain grants you multiple spells for a particular level, you can only choose one of them to prepare. This ensures that domain spells don’t dominate your entire spellcasting repertoire, allowing for a balance between domain-specific magic and other spells.
However, in nwn2 you can fill up an entire spell level with domain spells if you wish there's no restrictions here.
So it's that in combination with how powerful it is to give clerics access to arcane spells.
Hello there,
To complete your answer, it is true for spells that are not in the cleric spell list. So if a domain grants a spell that is on the cleric spell list already (Cure Light Wounds for example), this cleric can prepare it multiple time filling the domain slot, but also all others slots. They can indeed have domain spells dominating their entire spell book in that case. Otherwise, for spells that are not accessible to clerics, they can only be used in domain slot as you justly say.
Domains in general give you 1 spell per spell level. But it is said that you can use your domain spell slot to prepare domain spells of lower level. For example, you can use your 5th level domain spell slot to prepare the level 1 bonus domain spell. This ties with the possibility in pen and paper to prepare any lower level spell using higher level spell slots.
What is said is however true, our game does not have any of these specific restrictions and possibilities. We add spells to cleric spellbook from domain with no restriction to their use, and I am not sure any of those could be easily implemented. It seems already difficult to enable an additional domain choice.
For whoever is interested in domains, there is a variant I found nice in Complete Champion which enables additional domain powers based on the cleric activity and how much they get involved in areas related to their chosen domains. It's called domain affiliation.
I just found interesting to complete the answer and share what I have found, I have been genuinely interested in this question.
