Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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sinopip
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Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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When activated, the Reach to the Blaze Feat vfx of fire appears, but it doesn't trigger on enemies, even when I go very close to them.

Edit : tested again, sometimes it does trigger, sometimes it doesn't even after a few rounds.
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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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Hello there. The problem around it (and it's same for Body Of The Sun spell) is spell area range.
The way NWN2 works is that AoE circle must coincide with the center of creature model in order to consider it being eligible victim target.
Both spells have a very correct radius of 1.524m. It's a wonderful number because it's 5 feet in meters and it totally looks like a valid number when we look at PnP.
Due to the fact many creatures (aka wyverns) can have a model that is substantially bigger than 5 feet, it would be literally impossible to damage them with said spells.

I've proposed to increase spell radius by 50% (so it becomes 2.3 meters aka 7.5 feet). We'll have a small talk in Dev team if there are any better approaches (cause increasing radius won't still solve all the issues cause some mobs simply are bigger than 10 feet etc) and if we find no issue with increased range, we'll make it so.
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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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An additional issue with this Feat, imho, is that is isn't auto-centered on the casting PC/Fire Genasi. The player selects the Feat, but then must select the PC for it to "fire" (lol). It should really auto-effect the casting Fire Genasi, without needing to select/highlight the PC for it it cast/apply.

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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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Steve wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:27 pm An additional issue with this Feat, imho, is that is isn't auto-centered on the casting PC/Fire Genasi. The player selects the Feat, but then must select the PC for it to "fire" (lol). It should really auto-effect the casting Fire Genasi, without needing to select/highlight the PC for it it cast/apply.
I would add to this that genasi abilities should probably be instacast. The timers are already short, having to cast before going into combat then running in wastes a chunk of the ability. Which isn’t exactly blowing anyone’s doors off in the first place.

Really I’d recommend genasi’s get several SLAs. Maybe all on the same timer. They’re just underwhelming mechanically but might be more fun to play if they had more tactical options.
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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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It's a strange thing about the distance of target(s). I was fighting gnolls and couldn't trigger Reach to the Blaze (already active) sometimes, even was forcing movement closer (holding the left mouse button to move).
It's something similar against ranged enemies when you close up. Sometimes, as it should be, you have an attack of opportunity when they attack (and correctly, once per round max), sometimes it never triggers. But if I close by in their circle, I always get an attack of opportunity against them :)
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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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Tanlaus wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:01 pm
Steve wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:27 pm An additional issue with this Feat, imho, is that is isn't auto-centered on the casting PC/Fire Genasi. The player selects the Feat, but then must select the PC for it to "fire" (lol). It should really auto-effect the casting Fire Genasi, without needing to select/highlight the PC for it it cast/apply.
I would add to this that genasi abilities should probably be instacast. The timers are already short, having to cast before going into combat then running in wastes a chunk of the ability. Which isn’t exactly blowing anyone’s doors off in the first place.

Really I’d recommend genasi’s get several SLAs. Maybe all on the same timer. They’re just underwhelming mechanically but might be more fun to play if they had more tactical options.
Would you mind proposing those SLAs for all genasi types so it'd be quite uniform and they get a slight boost? IIRC, genasi is quite a niche race compared to tieflings/aasimars and making their SLAs actually useful (and, probably, more diverse) from lvl 1 to lvl 30 would be a good way to boost them a bit.
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Re: Reach to the Blaze - Fire Genasi

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DM’d you on discord.
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