I'm wondering, after all these years, does bladesinger require improvements?
I'm looking to start up conversation from other people having played the class. My own build comes from having 30 int bladesinger since campaigning for the class to be added. 10 wizard, 10 eldritch knight and 10 bladesinger.
Bladesinger
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Re: Bladesinger
Bladesinger is one of the strongest PRC in the game in my opinion. If it wasn’t elf locked I think the entire server would have at least one.
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Re: Bladesinger
I have not played Bladesinger proper, but I do play Wizard gish characters with similar builds and my main PC is a Wizard gish.
But as for Bladesinger needing buffs, no not at all, it remains a very strong PrC. Its only weaknesses being that it requires Blood Magus for the full 10 levels without losing 30 CL and that it is Elf locked (not the best race choice for a gish). They get bonus AC and even get to wear armor while skipping Auto-Still and free choice of Blind Fight or Improved Disarm. So it is just a plain improvement over non Elf gish builds. Even the pre-reqs are really no tougher than Dragon Slayer's given that the class ensures there is no reason to ever not use a Longsword. Best way to build one is Strength based for Mithral Chainmail and use Enlarge Person and Power Attack possibly from the gloves to save a feat.
Yeah 30 Int is'nt really that good on them. You don't use the Int for anything but skillpoints, gaining the ability to cast 9ths and your Bladesinger AC which caps at +5 and some bonus slots. Stops being useful after 19 base, which with Fox's Cunning puts you at +3 AC. Strength is more useful to a gish than Int. So you should be able to get a lot more AB and damage by putting the extraneous 7 Int into Str, which should let you Power Attack more giving you even more damage.
But as for Bladesinger needing buffs, no not at all, it remains a very strong PrC. Its only weaknesses being that it requires Blood Magus for the full 10 levels without losing 30 CL and that it is Elf locked (not the best race choice for a gish). They get bonus AC and even get to wear armor while skipping Auto-Still and free choice of Blind Fight or Improved Disarm. So it is just a plain improvement over non Elf gish builds. Even the pre-reqs are really no tougher than Dragon Slayer's given that the class ensures there is no reason to ever not use a Longsword. Best way to build one is Strength based for Mithral Chainmail and use Enlarge Person and Power Attack possibly from the gloves to save a feat.
Yeah 30 Int is'nt really that good on them. You don't use the Int for anything but skillpoints, gaining the ability to cast 9ths and your Bladesinger AC which caps at +5 and some bonus slots. Stops being useful after 19 base, which with Fox's Cunning puts you at +3 AC. Strength is more useful to a gish than Int. So you should be able to get a lot more AB and damage by putting the extraneous 7 Int into Str, which should let you Power Attack more giving you even more damage.
Last edited by Fumbles on Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Bladesinger
I would prefer there to also for there to be parry that I could take from the class itself, its a bit stringently passed out and they missed Bladesinger
Elyssa Symbaern - Bladesinger
Isioviel Fereyn - Elven Ranger
Charisa Flomeigne - Scion of Siamorphe
Isioviel Fereyn - Elven Ranger
Charisa Flomeigne - Scion of Siamorphe