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Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:20 pm
by Wyatt
Keenar wrote:I believe you need improved TWF to get tempest which requires Dex 17.
Good catch. Still should be easy to move a few stats around to get one more dex and the imp 2wf feat. Like I said, it isn't my build. Just a starting point for some ideas. I altered the builds linked though to hopefully at least make them correct for the server rules regarding tempest.
Maybe something along these lines.
http://nwn2db.com/build/?251406
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:20 pm
by sippahodge
As said previously I have chosen to build F18/5T/7WM
http://nwn2db.com/build/?250571
He is not a tank dwarf, he is built for damage. As for AC I think it will be sufficient for the roll he will play ie not tanking.
Tempest Defense and improved 2 weapon defense give ac boosts to dodge and shield, I have combat expertise for AC boost when needed and with such a high AB it will probably remain in combat expertise mode.
can always revert to a shield in real sticky situations.
Mithral Breatsplate is the goal, and a +3 DEX boost will give added AC (+5 total from dex)
I have rolled him to lvl 10 and he is very effective! at this lvl anyway, he did tank for a group of 3 in Gnoll cave with shield and combat expertise at lvl 8.
He solos well enough to lvl alone. Goblins are becoming pretty easy now, it does help that I scored a good axe (Mithral Mirror) which has 20 something spell resistance, +3 enchantment so make a meal of casters

Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:03 am
by sippahodge
So been rethinking this build and possibly getting more AC from going a Dervish dip
http://nwn2db.com/build/?250571
Ok, with the following items
Mithral breastplate +5, +4 deflection, +4 natural, +4 dodge, +4 Armor
This build will get me 49 AC (think i calculated correctly, let me know if i didn't)
I can bump it up with a combat expertise to 53 AC
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:47 am
by Valefort
AC : 10 (base) +5 (DEX) +5 (mithral brestplate) + 3 (tumble) +1 (LoH) +2 (tempest AC) + 2 (dervish AC) + 2 (improved two weapon defense) + 1 (armor skin) +4 *4 (dodge, natural, enchantment, deflection) = 47 AC, 50 with CE which is fine.
Other than that two things : you have to take your first dervish level at 6 and not 5 (BAB requirement) otherwise I would delay the last three dervish levels to get epic weapon specialization (drop great STR and use a +3 STR item or drop epic prowess and use a +2 STR item).
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:56 am
by Steve
The problem I see with your latest build is lack of Evasion and Uncanny Dodge, which is pretty spectacular for not losing your DEX based AC when flat footed or flanked—dwarves hate being caught flat-footed, and I've even heard it is a great insult in some Clans!!
You could achieve almost the same power but with better survivability if you chose Fighter (12), Dervish (10), Rogue (4), Anointed Knight (4).
Sure, less crits, but once your build runs into crit immune mobs or gets reflex save spell spammed...well....
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:10 am
by Theodore01
Steve wrote:You could achieve almost the same power but with better survivability if you chose Fighter (12), Dervish (10), Rogue (4), Anointed Knight (4).
No, F12/Derv10/Temp5/Ro3 ist the classic split.

Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:10 am
by sippahodge
Cheers fellas
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:15 am
by Steve
Theodore01 wrote:Steve wrote:You could achieve almost the same power but with better survivability if you chose Fighter (12), Dervish (10), Rogue (4), Anointed Knight (4).
No, F12/Derv10/Temp5/Ro3 ist the classic split.

In that case, I would personally opt for 4 levels of Rogue, 4 levels of Tempest, for Uncanny Dodge.
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:38 am
by sippahodge
That has taken a the AB from 47 to 44 to get evasion and uncanny dodge
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:44 am
by AC81
You need to drop improved crit - you can get it easy from wands.
Reduce starting strength to 16 - frees up 3 points. 1 goes to intelligence, 2 go to constitution.
Use the extra feat slot for Epic Weapon specialisation by doing what Vale said.
Use a +3 strength item.
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:55 am
by Theodore01
sippahodge wrote:That has taken a the AB from 47 to 44 to get evasion and uncanny dodge
It's more than enough AB with expose weakness. And sadly a melee build without evasion suffers a lot on our PW.
Take Oversized before TWDefense. And for sure not as an epic feat.
Oh and you missed expose weakness, take it asap.
Start as a rogue for more skillpoints.
I would change starting stats to 15,16,17,14,8,6. (+1dex,rest in str)
And take toughness/steadfast for the TWdefense feats.
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:05 am
by Valefort
That is a more solid build but less damage + cookie cutter

Go WM !
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:03 am
by sippahodge
Valefort wrote:That is a more solid build but less damage + cookie cutter

Go WM !
I am partial to the WM build
Can you get evasion from items or wands?
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:09 am
by Valefort
No, only from a class.
Re: Dwarf Duel Wield Waraxe build
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:35 am
by sippahodge
Not having evasion isn't going to break him? 50 odd AC