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Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:47 pm
by Valefort
Like Flame weapon and in general non-EB damage ? I'll add that.

Anyway for the on hit effects of daggers i went through the daggers we have and there are not many with on hit properties anyway :

10 % on hit cast slow, dc 16, CL 4

Bleeding DC 14

Poison DC 20 -1d2 CHA
poison DC 16 -1d2 STR

If there are more then send.

Re: fighter 30?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:54 pm
by Steve
What about custom daggers?!

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:02 pm
by Valefort
Why do you think I'm asking for a list ? :lol:

Re: fighter 30?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:04 pm
by Steve
Valefort wrote:Why do you think I'm asking for a list ? :lol:
Of course...but wouldn't you essentially have to make a list of ALL on hit effects available to DMs to create weapons with?

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:07 pm
by Valefort
I'm just hoping for the best because if the list is too long I won't do it fully.

Re: fighter 30?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:11 pm
by Theodore01
Steve wrote:
Valefort wrote:Why do you think I'm asking for a list ? :lol:
Of course...but wouldn't you essentially have to make a list of ALL on hit effects available to DMs to create weapons with?
That's pretty much effort for just one class (feat) - Is DSM such a weak class now?
And aren't there other really weak PRCs that should be upgraded ? Like BFZealot ;)

Re: fighter 30?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:12 pm
by Steve
Please add On Hit: Slay Elf DC=30. :twisted: :lol:

J/k...it's actually Half-Elves. :lol: :lol:

No really...j/k.

It's actually pretty MAJOR to make this change. I foresee a yuge uptick in DsMs!!!

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:18 pm
by Valefort
I'm honestly hesistating about making this for warlocks, it's fine for people who don't have infinfite spells but the warlocks ... :|

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:21 pm
by K'yon Oblodra
Does sound very interesting...not the warlord part but I'm general.

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:24 pm
by Theodore01
- Arcane Infusion: Arcane Infusion: At 7th level and higher, a daggerspell mage can infuse arcane spell power into his daggers, temporarily enabling them to deal extra energy damage. The daggers deal an extra 1d6 points of magic damage for a number of rounds equal to their class level and has a 5 minute cooldown.
Is this damage added to a RTA? That could be a first step.

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:30 pm
by Valefort
Does it work with warlocks invocations ?

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:50 am
by freekender
Theodore01 wrote:
- Arcane Infusion: Arcane Infusion: At 7th level and higher, a daggerspell mage can infuse arcane spell power into his daggers, temporarily enabling them to deal extra energy damage. The daggers deal an extra 1d6 points of magic damage for a number of rounds equal to their class level and has a 5 minute cooldown.
Is this damage added to a RTA? That could be a first step.
No, it is not. Arcane Infusion only works while in melee. As a sidenote, it can work at the same time Hideows BLow is active.

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:18 am
by dzidek1983
But you can add each base dagger dmg + enchantment to your blasts.

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:17 am
by Lockonnow
I was hope they will remove the feat where you need the rogue lvl so you can pick the daggerspell mage prc so you dpnt need the rogue but you can then use a item use item with 1d6 sneak attack on and yes there is a item out there couse you only need one rogue lvl to pick the class tha ti think it is to low that you need to one rogue lvl

Re: Daggerspell mage daggers?

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:37 am
by Egg Shen
Agree with Lockonnow...I think? I mean, you don't actually need Rogue, I assume he's referring to the Sneak Attack 1d6 requirement.

With the current requirements, I feel railroaded into specific class combinations and into a caster-heavy version of a Daggerspell Mage. I'd like to experiment with other arrangements, but they all seem pretty questionable in terms of effectiveness.