With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Poll: Spellsword PrC needed...or not

Yes, this PrC is a TOP priority in my opinion
20
39%
Yes, this PrC is a Low As Dirt priority
7
14%
No, this PrC is unneeded at this time
24
47%
 
Total votes: 51

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I added a shiny, alluring poll to the Topic!!!

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Blackhorizon wrote:
Steve wrote:
WHY SHOULD ELVES HAVE ALL THE FUN?!?
If this is your sole argument then I'll have to point out: Why dwarven, Thayan, Lathander, Selune, Gond or any other similiarly limited option? Just saying.
Don't forget though, Elves already get Arcane Archer which is a really nice PRC, just saying. I play elves too, but we shouldn't forget what is already available ;)

That being said, I vote "no", just because Steve brought it up :P
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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I feel so...popular! :|

It's not about me!! Lol.

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Steve wrote:I feel so...popular! :|

It's not about me!! Lol.
viewtopic.php?f=443&t=57478 <- Similar enough PRC suggestion.
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Comments Only wrote:
Steve wrote:I feel so...popular! :|

It's not about me!! Lol.
viewtopic.php?f=443&t=57478 <- Similar enough PRC suggestion.
I do realize that. But Spellsword is better because 3.5e. ;)

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Well i voted no. Bladesinger is a rich lore class in forgotten realms that comes with its own RP requirements and limitations. A spellsword is not, All it does is undermine the lore and dilute the classes reputation and training. Spellsword is not a forgotten realms class for a reason, It wouldn't be a closely guarded elven secret if humans could to it better.
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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ZestyDragon wrote:Well i voted no. Bladesinger is a rich lore class in forgotten realms that comes with its own RP requirements and limitations. A spellsword is not, All it does is undermine the lore and dilute the classes reputation and training. Spellsword is not a forgotten realms class for a reason, It wouldn't be a closely guarded elven secret if humans could to it better.
Are you saying that the D&D book Complete Warrior is not applicable to the Forgotten Realms?

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Hard to vote because we don't know what the other priority is.
I always love every new prc or new stuff in general, but not sure what has to move to get this one in.
For example if it's this prc versus the Bereft prc than I would obviously go for this one.
If it is this one versus crafting, well crafting it is.

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Steve wrote:
ZestyDragon wrote:Well i voted no. Bladesinger is a rich lore class in forgotten realms that comes with its own RP requirements and limitations. A spellsword is not, All it does is undermine the lore and dilute the classes reputation and training. Spellsword is not a forgotten realms class for a reason, It wouldn't be a closely guarded elven secret if humans could to it better.
Are you saying that the D&D book Complete Warrior is not applicable to the Forgotten Realms?
It is a supplement book majority has no lore attachment to forgotten realms, and in this case it would be stepping on lore. You want to play it just make an elf/half elf there is no valid reason to add another. Unless we want to start adding non human circle mages, or different god shadow adepts, maybe elves want to be thay knights?.
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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ZestyDragon wrote:
Steve wrote:
ZestyDragon wrote:Well i voted no. Bladesinger is a rich lore class in forgotten realms that comes with its own RP requirements and limitations. A spellsword is not, All it does is undermine the lore and dilute the classes reputation and training. Spellsword is not a forgotten realms class for a reason, It wouldn't be a closely guarded elven secret if humans could to it better.
Are you saying that the D&D book Complete Warrior is not applicable to the Forgotten Realms?
It is a supplement book majority has no lore attachment to forgotten realms, and in this case it would be stepping on lore. You want to play it just make an elf/half elf there is no valid reason to add another. Unless we want to start adding non human circle mages, or different god shadow adepts, maybe elves want to be thay knights?.
You do realize that Bladesinger is also in Complete Warrior, yes?

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Complete Warrior is not a setting specific book, it however has a few classes which appear in a setting. Bladesinger has multiple iterations over many books including races of Faerun. I've been looking around, and I believe Complete Warrior is the only which mentions spellsword.

From my search it shows Swordmage as a class first appears in Forgotten Realms Player's Guide and in Dragon Magazine #367. Those two sources are fourth edition books/articles.
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Well...I guess we'd better scrub out Bear Warrior, Order of the Bow Initiate, and others! :lol: 8-)

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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There is one other book I see spellsword appear in, and thats Tome & Blood page 68. Which is third edition. Sword and Fist along with Warrior for Order of the Bow Initiate. Bear warrior Complete warrior and Oriental adventures.
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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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Tantive wrote:...and thats Tome & Blood page 68. Which is third edition.
"I've got your magic sword right here!" lol.

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Re: With Bladesinger...why not Spellsword?

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That's clearly an elf and singing :lol:
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