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Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:25 pm
by Steve
Mords will eat anything, really. But what happens after Mords? Save or Die spell? This is what I'm thinking to be prepared for.
Is there not at least 1 counter for every spell? Would it make sense that there was?
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:45 pm
by chad878262
Steve wrote:Mords will eat anything, really. But what happens after Mords? Save or Die spell? This is what I'm thinking to be prepared for.
Is there not at least 1 counter for every spell? Would it make sense that there was?
Or Bigby 9 followed by IGMS spam, which if your spell resistance is stripped by Mords, is enough...
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:30 pm
by Steve
Yeah, that's a Kill Method for sure. So, what does your toon do? Try to land a blow and break their concentration? Storm of Vengeance for Stun? Advanced Divine Spell powered Destruction spell against a low Fort caster?
I was honestly not thinking of this Build for PvP, but obviously that is on everyone's mind.
PvP winning has always been about getting the "drop" on the opponent, especially if a Caster. This is why, for example, a HiPsing Mage is so lethal—to get the drop on a beast that can totally disappear in an instant and consecutively, is tough.
Certain builds—especially the caster types—are labeled glass canons for a reason. And I do think that a DC cleric is a scary beast...though my build idea here is not specifically about DCs but a mix of Turning and such.
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:39 pm
by chad878262
Steve wrote:So, what does your toon do?
Dies... I suck at PvP...
The standard protections would work, if one were quick enough. Mantle, HiPS, Counter-spelling, Ethereal Jaunt, Storm of Vengeance if you can get it off first...(Pray?)
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:49 pm
by Sun Wukong
Steve wrote:So, what does your toon do?
They tend to keep talking until buffs run out.
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 3:12 am
by dzidek1983
No one uses Bigby 9 for PVP, you cant quicken it... PVP is all about speed and good spell combos...
How to kill your cleric? I'll take a Frost Mage ASOC with HIPS.
Re: Cleric / Morninglord / Hierophant / Paladin
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 5:04 am
by Steve
dzidek1983 wrote:No one uses Bigby 9 for PVP, you cant quicken it... PVP is all about speed and good spell combos...
How to kill your cleric? I'll take a Frost Mage ASOC with HIPS.
I share your thoughts here, Dizzy.
Though I think this build would do very well in PvM and have some moments of great power against Undead, any PC that would get the drop on her, would overpower and win the fight.
Although...it is possible to make a high DCs Cleric with metamagic that can also Quicken and kill. It's easy to build a one-trick pony, but that doesn't mean it will be fun to play,