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Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:21 am
by Calodan
aaron22 wrote:ok. ill check it out.

can the searing caverns be accessed from the UD/UpD?

UD can get there through the Wilds of the UD and Surface can get there through Durlag's. Upper Dark has to go through the Underdark to get there. If I am recalling my recent mapping of the Upper Dark correctly Surface can no longer transfer easily to the Underdark through the Upper Dark.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:45 am
by aaron22
surface can tranny through UpD to UD really easily. only the rockrun no-map/map creates issue. highest CR i think i meet is 9? not sure what the batari goblin things are.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:59 pm
by aaron22
I went into the wilds and did many circles in both wilds areas. Only door that gave me promise that I saw was one that said I needed dm permission. The door did not work.

I could have not been doing something right to use the door. Like pm a dm.

It could also be the wrong door and I have not actually found the correct door.

If anyone knows what heck I'm talking about could they give me hint.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:43 am
by Calodan
aaron22 wrote:I went into the wilds and did many circles in both wilds areas. Only door that gave me promise that I saw was one that said I needed dm permission. The door did not work.

I could have not been doing something right to use the door. Like pm a dm.

It could also be the wrong door and I have not actually found the correct door.

If anyone knows what heck I'm talking about could they give me hint.
It is possible the transition is broken and since few people use that route anymore no one noticed.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:51 am
by aaron22
being as i have never used that transition before, it would be difficult for me to claim that a bug. i will put it in the testing forum.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 am
by Invoker
I farm the Wilds regularly on my melee Drow.

That door used to lead to the Netherese Maze (before 2011), but the transition has been subsequently moved to the Illithid area between their Hive and the Mines, for ease of access as the Driders are rather strong.

It's supposed to be a dead transition.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:18 am
by aaron22
ok. so i have not discovered the correct transition then? or is there no transition anymore to the searing tunnels?

side note:
why would somebody heading to the maze be concerned over the driders in the wilds? seems backwards.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:18 am
by Calodan
Invoker wrote:I farm the Wilds regularly on my melee Drow.

That door used to lead to the Netherese Maze (before 2011), but the transition has been subsequently moved to the Illithid area between their Hive and the Mines, for ease of access as the Driders are rather strong.

It's supposed to be a dead transition.
So where is the transition to the Searing caverns that are under Durlag's which leads to the UD? There are 3 routes now I thought to the UD. Through the UpD, through the maze which still has points on surface and UD and finally through Durlags to the Wilds was the route has that changed?

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:32 am
by Invoker
aaron22 wrote:ok. so i have not discovered the correct transition then? or is there no transition anymore to the searing tunnels?

side note:
why would somebody heading to the maze be concerned over the driders in the wilds? seems backwards.
Sure there is. Illithid Hive -> Go out -> Take the transition to the Netherese Maze.

The Driders in the wilds are more or less like the Maze. If you are immune to Bigbies and IGMS, it's not like the Netherese Maze is impossible. Forcing the Driders AND THEN the Maze was probably thought too problematic. As I said, I am speculating, because when I arrived on the server (2011) it had already been like this for a while.
Calodan wrote: So where is the transition to the Searing caverns that are under Durlag's which leads to the UD?
See above.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:43 am
by Calodan
Invoker wrote:
aaron22 wrote:ok. so i have not discovered the correct transition then? or is there no transition anymore to the searing tunnels?

side note:
why would somebody heading to the maze be concerned over the driders in the wilds? seems backwards.
Sure there is. Illithid Hive -> Go out -> Take the transition to the Netherese Maze.

The Driders in the wilds are more or less like the Maze. If you are immune to Bigbies and IGMS, it's not like the Netherese Maze is impossible. Forcing the Driders AND THEN the Maze was probably thought too problematic. As I said, I am speculating, because when I arrived on the server (2011) it had already been like this for a while.
Calodan wrote: So where is the transition to the Searing caverns that are under Durlag's which leads to the UD?
See above.
So you are saying there are only 2 ways into the UD now? Where there were 3 there are now only 2?

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:59 am
by Invoker
Calodan, I am talking about one of them with Aaron.

I said nothing about the other two. I know another, and not the third. I went on a two year's break, and this crap wasn't here before.

What I am talking about, is the Netherese Maze, through the Magma Golems, to Durlag's, and the history of the Wild's dead transition. This was the OP.

I have the feeling you're asking something else.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:32 am
by aaron22
Invoker wrote:What I am talking about, is the Netherese Maze, through the Magma Golems, to Durlag's
that sounds like a more dangerous journey than i am prepared to handle. i will check it out. i am not immune to IGMS but can mit through it. mainly i try try to hit them down before they cast it. i will see how it goes.

illithid to maze to searing to durlags. then i will try the reverse. did not know the maze sat between UD and searing(UpD).

is maze UpD or UD?

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:45 pm
by Invoker
Both the maze and the magma have been there far, far before the Upperdark‘s mom met its dad...

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:23 pm
by electric mayhem
Invoker wrote:Both the maze and the magma have been there far, far before the Upperdark‘s mom met its dad...

Charles Darwin would be proud.

Re: Trying to figure out the UpD

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:16 am
by illithid
The beauty of the maze is that the less you know about it the more likely you are to die in it. It's not impossible, but getting lost in there tends to give you that feeling of being chased in a nightmare where you can't seem to wake yourself up