Picking up petrified creatures?

[AlwaysSummer Day]

Sure, no issue. So set the weight at 400lbs.

[Steve]

400 lbs. | Drum of Oil (full), Piano, Sport Motorcycle

You’re gunna need two hands for that luv.

[Raivana]

400 lbs. | Drum of Oil (full), Piano, Sport Motorcycle

You’re gunna need two hands for that luv.

I never suggested that "I" wouldn't.. actually due to the cumbersome shape of a human, regardless of your strength, you would likely need two hands to throw one as well.. But.. a fictional character able to lift over a thousand pounds over their head? No.. they could drag you along with one finger if need be.. and even supposing you do need two hands..

As I said.. It is simple enough to let go of whatever you are dragging and start fighting.. in nearly an instant.. that is why dropping an item in PnP is a free action and take no time. In game, however, the act of dropping an item is tedious and expecting them to actually go into their inventory and set the item down to RP that they simply opened there hands to release whatever they were previously dragging.. Doesn't accurately represent what the action would be like if performed in DnD as.. the person isn't actually in your bag..

[Steve]

If you can get a dragging mechanic put in game, then I'm all for it!

[Raivana]

If you are referring to this-

The first thing we're told, for playing on this Server, is that we shall limit our experience to the mechanics available in-game, unless a DM is present to allow for additional aspects of the D&D world to be applied (for example, no spells not mechanically available are actually available, to our Characters).

then I think you are taking this entirely too far.. This means it is impossible for us to.. carry fallen or injured players.. unless the fallen can be stuffed into a backpack.. I suppose mechanically every player on the server can be stuffed into a backpack.. Which I suppose would be okay since the mechanics support it? But helping a limping player walk? Out of the question since there are no mechanics in the game to support it..

If however you are just suggesting that it would be nice to have such mechanics in the game.. I'd agree.. seems extremely low priority but.. Sure why not..

[Wolfrayne]

Sure, no issue. So set the weight at 400lbs.

And while we are at it lets give gold a weight limit, and make it so that you can only carry items your character could physically hold. No more 10 sets of armour or 15 weapons from all those loot runs. All those potions people carry NOPE thats too akward to do cant hold all them.

[AlwaysSummer Day]

So the argument is that 30~ strength characters can carry 1500lbs and 10 sets of armor so it's completely feasible for a character to carry a 2800 lb Frost giant. But don't set the weight that high because than an 8 strength wizard can't.

[Wolfrayne]

yep. Because its a fantasy setting where the laws of physics don't really matter anyway so who gives a damn? if i want to run around with a dragon statue in my pocket then Im going to do so. There are spells that allow such things to happen. Maybe when they are turned to stone they are hollowed out, Maybe they are shrunk down to little figurines its all within the realm of possibility.

It seems like people are making a bigger deal out of this than they need to. You cant pick and choose when to apply the rules simply because you think its unbelievable. Its a game.

People don't always follow the "play your sheet" rule to an exact science anyway. Look at stats for example. How many low charisma characters are incredibly popular and good with people despite the fact that their sheet says otherwise. How many people apply their out of game knowledge to their character because "ooo i know what that demon lord is because i read it in a book once"

This is just another fun little thing people can play with and use to add to their RP (if they so choose) hate on it all you want but personally id like to see more things like this, More spells that let me have a tangible effect on the world around me.

[Zethrenx99]

I think that is silly, just keep to what is possible in PnP with the restrictions of bugsidians basic mechanics. No, you can't shove some one into your backpack unless it is a bag of holding which, as far as i know, doesn't exist in this current setting. And even bags of holding are constrained by the physical dimensions of the bag, you can put something into that bag that is larger than the opening for instance. And no, carrying a 2800 lb frost giant statue with 8 str should not happen. Keep it at 2800 lbs, even high str guys will be encumbered but that is fine. . . or scale it under the assumption that the statue is being dragged, 2800/5 is about 560 lbs. Petrification does not add mass to something, so its weight should remain the same. Just all of the mass is converted to petrified stone.

I posted an idea a long while back regarding a dragging/carrying/grapple mechanic. I still would like to see this happen if it is even possible within the engine :3

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[Raivana]

Sure, no issue. So set the weight at 400lbs.

And while we are at it lets give gold a weight limit, and make it so that you can only carry items your character could physically hold. No more 10 sets of armour or 15 weapons from all those loot runs. All those potions people carry NOPE thats too akward to do cant hold all them.

I'm.. confused.. what is your issue with a human statue weighing 350-400 pounds..? It's realistic weight..

Also.. the people who are mentioning carrying giant statues in their pocket are mostly just arguing with themselves.. The vast majority of people who have commented here are suggesting how it would be helpful to help players who get turned to stone or to use as an RP mechanic.. If the devs see an issue with dragging frost giant statues, then it simply needs not work on frost giants.. Your point has been made No need to derail the whole thread with this nonsense.

[Endelyon]

It's not unreasonable to assume you could get the statue out in any number of the same ways you would in a PNP campaign. Bringing it out on a horse-drawn cart, for instance. Shapechanging into a Frost Giant and carrying it out yourself. Surely a Frost Giant can carry another Frost Giant... Seems a bit unfair to just assume that all movement of frost giant statues amounts to stuffing them into bags of holding and walking out with them when there are plenty of valid and reasonable IC ways (within our rules and mechanics) to explain this.

[Endelyon]

Ideally people should portray carrying large objects with roleplay, it can't be made visible because it's not pnp.

It's not unreasonable to assume you could get the statue out in any number of the same ways you would in a PNP campaign. Bringing it out on a horse-drawn cart, for instance. Shapechanging into a Frost Giant and carrying it out yourself. Surely a Frost Giant can carry another Frost Giant. It's not even outside of the realm of possibility that a bunch of PCs RP simply carrying the statue out together. Seems a bit unfair to just assume that all movement of frost giant statues amounts to stuffing them into bags of holding and walking out with them when there are plenty of valid and reasonable IC ways (within our rules and mechanics) to explain this.

[Mallore]

Being cheeky.....


With an ability/feat/talent or perhaps though design. Can I choose the type of stone, such as pumice. A well know light density stone that can float on water.

This way my Frost Giant Garden Accesory is now light weight and portable by river or other body of water?


Being light hearted.

[Raivana]

lol.. I wish.. then you could turn everything to pumice or lava rock and just chop through it or shatter it with ease.. But it does seem, based on the DR given, that they are turned into solid rock.. Just my opinion.

[Mallore]

...take it a step further. A metamagic feat that allows you to augment the stone into say talc. Now your favorite villain can become baby powder or your next shade of blush!