Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

How about simply deleting the practised spellcaster feats ?

This will ensure :
- That "pure" casters get the best DCs by having a caster level of 30
- Changes made to the dispell spells can be lowered so that "pure" casters are less affected by dispells
- That the practised spellcaster DC bug can no longer be abused.

That will also require some other changes, IE :
- Alter the Pale master class to gain a spellcasting progression of 9/10

Biggest problem would be the amount of characters impacted when initially doing it.

Thoughts ?

at this point.... no
to many players use it...

it should be implemented at the start of the server.. now it's to late...

Can't DM just remove / add a feat easily ?
This would prevent rebuilds.

Laenor wrote:Can't DM just remove / add a feat easily ?
This would prevent rebuilds.

for so many players? i doubt it....
besides some builds will be utter crap without this feat... and the changes to the server will be heavy to pull this through

I'm curious what builds would become "utter crap" ?

Those that will be fully dispelled by Greater Dispell?

Greater dispell (all dispells actually) would also need to have lowered power.
Something in between of current and vanilla.

Why not nerf hips while at it?

Say, requires CL 28 to be sage from greater dispell.

Ivan38Rus wrote:Why not nerf hips while at it?

Soon !

utter crap.. practically every casting combination with a non-casting class... you loose 3 CL at the start... take another you loose 6 CL....

That's pretty much the point of the change.
Dipping in other non-CL improving classes = higher chance for dispell and lowered DC.

Still i just want to see pros and cons for such a change.

sure you can se that... but normally you can take 1 level each class so the penalty would be MAX 3CL wor a wizard/fighter/rogue/cleric
and this would be correct with the D&D rules..
on this server you HAVE to take 3 levels each class
this makes PS feat a must have for such class combinations
instead having 21CL you have 25 CL which is still much less then a pure caster

In term of gameplay CL 21 and CL 25 is the same.
I want to penalize a bit class dipping , both for gishes and divine classes.

I want to penalize a bit class dipping , both for gishes and divine classes.

oh a crusader you are....

fine then...
right now you have to take 3 levels every class before 20 right?
this alone hampers there spell progression
a dedicated gish will take at least 4 levels fighter + 10 Eldritch Knight
so he looses 4 CL before 20 so his first lvl9 spell is in epic levels
that is some penalty dont you think?