Blackguard Roleplay?

[GreyARocks]

My next character is going to be a Bard/SS/BG and I'm doing my research now on how to rp him and such.

This is my first "evil" character and also my first Bard, Stormsinger and Blackguard so I'm very excited.

So far alignment will be Neutral Evil, coming into this as more a Hitman for hire a Mercenary who will do what he needs to do for the reward and even only playing his lute for....loot.

Now whats holding me back currently is what deity, he will be surface and either Aasimar or Human. Any suggestions?

[Baboonicorn]

Evil aasimar are not impossible but extremely snowflakey. And we already have a blizzard of the things.

As a stormsinger, the most appropriate deities to fit your desired alignment are Talos (chaotic evil; storms, destruction), Umberlee (chaotic evil; the sea) or maybe Akadi (true neutral, elemental air).

Umberlee is probably my favourite of the three as:

1) You have a temple to her in Baldur's Gate to act as a storyline hook
2) You have ready-made PC antagonists in the Whistling Wanderess crew, who you will probably not want to shout your allegiances at too loudly until you can look after yourself.
3) I can imagine your mercenary stormsinger offering to use his weather control to ensure sailors safe passage across Umberlee's domain, then extorting more money out of them by calling up a big storm.

Your choice at the end of the day.

p.s. If you do go Umberlee, a bowl of summoning water elementals and a Book of the Waves would be nice RP aids.

[GreyARocks]

Evil aasimar are not impossible but extremely snowflakey. And we already have a blizzard of the things.

As a stormsinger, the most appropriate deities to fit your desired alignment are Talos (chaotic evil; storms, destruction), Umberlee (chaotic evil; the sea) or maybe Akadi (true neutral, elemental air).

Umberlee is probably my favourite of the three as:

1) You have a temple to her in Baldur's Gate to act as a storyline hook
2) You have ready-made PC antagonists in the Whistling Wanderess crew, who you will probably not want to shout your allegiances at too loudly until you can look after yourself.
3) I can imagine your mercenary stormsinger offering to use his weather control to ensure sailors safe passage across Umberlee's domain, then extorting more money out of them by calling up a big storm.

Your choice at the end of the day.

p.s. If you do go Umberlee, a bowl of summoning water elementals and a Book of the Waves would be nice RP aids.

He is being rerolled from my Umberlee Cleric who already has a bowl of summoning water elementals, not a bad thought I like the Stormsinger sailor thing

[Broham2]

I like all of Baboon's advice. I would vote for the human character as well. I am not a fan of the over played evil aasimar, even if the stats make it fit better for the 'build'. The RP would seem more sound, imo, as a human. I think Akadi is probably a bit of as stretch for storms, and Talos is hard to play because of the 'Grrr in your face' destruction that he embodies. Umberlee is a good mix, I can especially see the bard playing a rougher tavern, and using the BG skeleton as a sort of drowned first-mate type companion.

If you make a female, a decent background story is a rough and tumble bard.. traveling with her love at sea when a storm whipped up. She prayed to the Bitch Queen to save her and her lover.. and she did so, but the lover is now the animated skeleton companion.

Something like that.

[GreyARocks]

Yeah I'v done the Evil Aasimar thing before but I did roleplay it but I did feel like a dirty snowflake. Will go Human would rather have the extra feat I'm sure instead of the +2 to cha.

[rick2222]

Easiest thing to say would be to start more on a middle ground. Your character has good blood in them so they will be more compelled to do more good, or at least work for more positive ish outcomes from things, but they are on the sketchy side or already on the road to evil, but not exactly commited to it wholeheartedly I think.

[Hitman Hard]

Aye nothing wrong with snowflakes, alot of the greatest faerun characters were snowflakes.

[Baboonicorn]

Don't forget that in PnP, a blackguard must:

Special
The character must have made peaceful contact with an evil outsider who was summoned by him or someone else.

While we're not playing PnP here, don't forget that the blackguard class deserves to be the cornerstone of this character, not just a means to EDM and divine shield. (The very fact you've created this post reassures me that you won't )

Aye nothing wrong with snowflakes, alot of the greatest faerun characters were snowflakes.

Snowflakes are fine when they're the subject of their own novel or whatever. In a multiplayer persistent world, a bit less heavy-handedness in making your character unique can make them much more memorable than just "that aasimar warlock" or "tiefling paladin".

[GreyARocks]

Don't forget that in PnP, a blackguard must:

Special
The character must have made peaceful contact with an evil outsider who was summoned by him or someone else.

While we're not playing PnP here, don't forget that the blackguard class deserves to be the cornerstone of this character, not just a means to EDM and divine shield. (The very fact you've created this post reassures me that you won't )

Aye the blackguard is in there for flavor I'v been tempted in the past to make a Bard/SS/SL but SL just dont do it for me plus the Talos thing on the surface doesn't work to well. While I wont say the blackguard is a cornerstone for the build it is an important factor in character development. I dont think my character will have no problems making peaceful contact with an evil outsider considering the mercenary and doing pretty much anything for gold.

Side note aren't we all blackguards if we did the Imp quest in Sharptooth?


Now I need to find someone to help me transfer gear =( Wish I could figure out how to play two clients at one time.

[Larzs]

I still have a super hard time...ever seeing a Bard/Blackguard really making any sense except really a full blown hexer, just cursing everything out of their foes.

Maybe the stealth aspect too, just the general thing of the Blackguard being the right-hand of evil deities or greater powers and leading evil around taking power and sowing strife and fear, then the general play of Bards, just boosting and inspiring comrades and staying behind all the lines. Blackguard is usually a physical augment and boost to damage with divine power behind it.

Bards usually don't have much physical prowess to start with, so be sure to RP the BG and the devotion...if you are just another dipper...I will find you and break you into being a true Blackguard...

Side note aren't we all blackguards if we did the Imp quest in Sharptooth?

Nah, more just evil. Takes more then just picking up some poop to be evil.

[Nomster]

Side note aren't we all blackguards if we did the Imp quest in Sharptooth?

Many people do the quests in an OOC fashion. They get repetitive and its odd that some people will want the same thing every week and hire 30 or so adventurers for the task. Not to mention that turning down a gold reward is better xp in all cases except for one..!

[GreyARocks]

I still have a super hard time...ever seeing a Bard/Blackguard really making any sense except really a full blown hexer, just cursing everything out of their foes.

Maybe the stealth aspect too, just the general thing of the Blackguard being the right-hand of evil deities or greater powers and leading evil around taking power and sowing strife and fear, then the general play of Bards, just boosting and inspiring comrades and staying behind all the lines. Blackguard is usually a physical augment and boost to damage with divine power behind it.

Bards usually don't have much physical prowess to start with, so be sure to RP the BG and the devotion...if you are just another dipper...I will find you and break you into being a true Blackguard...

Side note aren't we all blackguards if we did the Imp quest in Sharptooth?

Nah, more just evil. Takes more then just picking up some poop to be evil.

I am just a dipper but I play my dips

So far he is a devotee to Umberlee at the church Priory of the Depths up in Port Llast hired by sailors to keep the storms calm but he is known(or not) to be the only survivor of a few cargo vessels which were under the position of certain items . He transfered(is that the right word for it) down to the Water Queen Temple in BG to be of service. Thats the base of it at least.

And who said Bards are weak, I did most of my pnp in northern campaigns where the Bards are Skalds who wooped ass with a 2 hander as well.

[Baboonicorn]

Side note aren't we all blackguards if we did the Imp quest in Sharptooth?

Many people do the quests in an OOC fashion. They get repetitive and its odd that some people will want the same thing every week and hire 30 or so adventurers for the task. Not to mention that turning down a gold reward is better xp in all cases except for one..!

Nonetheless, none of my good characters have ever agreed to take the imp's quest.

If my quest suggestion to tfunke goes live... well. We'll see.

[Larzs]

I am just a dipper but I play my dips

So far he is a devotee to Umberlee at the church Priory of the Depths up in Port Llast hired by sailors to keep the storms calm but he is known(or not) to be the only survivor of a few cargo vessels which were under the position of certain items . He transfered(is that the right word for it) down to the Water Queen Temple in BG to be of service. Thats the base of it at least.

And who said Bards are weak, I did most of my pnp in northern campaigns where the Bards are Skalds who wooped ass with a 2 hander as well.

We shall see...I hate the class is more a lazy means to get some irresistible damage. They are suppose to be the shuddered whispers and horrid nightmares of droves, their commitment to bringing darkness is unheard of. They are divine evil, just using them for 2 damn feats is abhorrent. And 95% of them don't even RP it or have it anywhere in their history. It is Divine Might, they get it from a god, but no one even pays heed to that part.

I say we just put Divine Might and Divine Shield to PnP...no one will touch the damn class after that.

[Baboonicorn]

One of my first characters on the server was a fighter/blackguard/divine champion of Gargauth. He got mistaken for a paladin a lot,