Switching deities?
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Switching deities?
Good morning,
I was wondering what are some 'acceptable' RP reasons for a cleric switching deities? Losing faith or being converted is a huge deal and I just want to see what the server population would think on something like this without getting the eye rolls of death.
I was wondering what are some 'acceptable' RP reasons for a cleric switching deities? Losing faith or being converted is a huge deal and I just want to see what the server population would think on something like this without getting the eye rolls of death.
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Re: Switching deities?
A background with a seed or two in that direction would be nice but not necessary I guess.
Extensive roleplay and the change of deity due to consequences and situations experienced would be welcome. Just a sudden switch would make little sense after all.
Doubts, unanswered questions of faith, some sort of introduction to the second faith, a threshold (preferrably more than one), occasional relapses before finally coming to embrace the new faith would be nice.
But it is all really up to the individual player to decide what is reasonable for the toon in question.
Extensive roleplay and the change of deity due to consequences and situations experienced would be welcome. Just a sudden switch would make little sense after all.
Doubts, unanswered questions of faith, some sort of introduction to the second faith, a threshold (preferrably more than one), occasional relapses before finally coming to embrace the new faith would be nice.
But it is all really up to the individual player to decide what is reasonable for the toon in question.
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Re: Switching deities?
Favoured Souls should not change their deities after taking their first level of that class.
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Re: Switching deities?
This is very good, thank you. If I do decide to go with this, I just want to do it "right" and these are great to think about. So something like this has happened before I assume?Storm Munin wrote:A background with a seed or two in that direction would be nice but not necessary I guess.
Extensive roleplay and the change of deity due to consequences and situations experienced would be welcome. Just a sudden switch would make little sense after all.
Doubts, unanswered questions of faith, some sort of introduction to the second faith, a threshold (preferrably more than one), occasional relapses before finally coming to embrace the new faith would be nice.
But it is all really up to the individual player to decide what is reasonable for the toon in question.
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Re: Switching deities?
Or possibly a conflict, a crisis of faith that the cleric cannot overcome. They loose their faith, and wonder aimlessly until they find a solution to the crisis.
And important thing to remember is that very, very, very few clerics begin their careers as a spur of a moment. Most of them have trained their entire lives to be clerics, hence the reason for the crisis of faith needs to be something major, or alternatively a sum of a very large minor incidents.
For example, a Lawful Good Cleric of Tyr might grow disillusioned if Tyr's laws do not manage to provide the absolute 'good' the Cleric hopes for. In such a case, the Cleric in question might convert to become a follower of Ilmater instead, as Ilmater's faith enables the cleric to help more.
Or alternatively, the Cleric of Tyr 'falls' and becomes a cleric of 'Bane' instead. Such an incident could be something like adherance of the laws failing to ensure the best possible outcome. A desire to take law in the cleric's own hands, and it is just a slippery slope after that.
So, for more specific guidance, more information is needed.
And when a cleric does switch a deity, of course it takes some time to learn the tenets of the new patron deity.
And important thing to remember is that very, very, very few clerics begin their careers as a spur of a moment. Most of them have trained their entire lives to be clerics, hence the reason for the crisis of faith needs to be something major, or alternatively a sum of a very large minor incidents.
For example, a Lawful Good Cleric of Tyr might grow disillusioned if Tyr's laws do not manage to provide the absolute 'good' the Cleric hopes for. In such a case, the Cleric in question might convert to become a follower of Ilmater instead, as Ilmater's faith enables the cleric to help more.
Or alternatively, the Cleric of Tyr 'falls' and becomes a cleric of 'Bane' instead. Such an incident could be something like adherance of the laws failing to ensure the best possible outcome. A desire to take law in the cleric's own hands, and it is just a slippery slope after that.
So, for more specific guidance, more information is needed.
And when a cleric does switch a deity, of course it takes some time to learn the tenets of the new patron deity.
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Re: Switching deities?
I will link to a post I made on this some time ago.
Basically the steps are,
-You lose all your powers.
-You do something for your new deity.
-A cleric of that new faith accepts you.
-You regain your powers.
Some take the RP steps more seriously, others just go through an RCR and are magically changed beings suddenly
Clerics have changed faith on the server before but I am unsure if they have to go through an RCR or if a DM swapping out their domains and deity is enough. If you need your alignment changed, a DM may want to see some RP behind it.
Basically the steps are,
-You lose all your powers.
-You do something for your new deity.
-A cleric of that new faith accepts you.
-You regain your powers.
Some take the RP steps more seriously, others just go through an RCR and are magically changed beings suddenly
Clerics have changed faith on the server before but I am unsure if they have to go through an RCR or if a DM swapping out their domains and deity is enough. If you need your alignment changed, a DM may want to see some RP behind it.
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Re: Switching deities?
No, there is no way a DM will swap your domains. I do not even remember if it's possible with the Client, but I'd lean towards "no".Nomster wrote:I will link to a post I made on this some time ago.
Basically the steps are,
-You lose all your powers.
-You do something for your new deity.
-A cleric of that new faith accepts you.
-You regain your powers.
Some take the RP steps more seriously, others just go through an RCR and are magically changed beings suddenly
Clerics have changed faith on the server before but I am unsure if they have to go through an RCR or if a DM swapping out their domains and deity is enough. If you need your alignment changed, a DM may want to see some RP behind it.
It would also be hard to justify your magical power level staying the same with the newfound faith, after a lifetime of strengthening the bond with your former god. So perhaps RCRing is even more attuned to the situation.
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Re: Switching deities?
I would say role-playing yourself into a corner where the realism of the roleplay demands you RCR is a better way of putting it. Those of us who rcr for roleplay reasons and not power reasons do not see the rationale behind this.Nomster wrote:I will link to a post I made on this some time ago.
Basically the steps are,
-You lose all your powers.
-You do something for your new deity.
-A cleric of that new faith accepts you.
-You regain your powers.
Some take the RP steps more seriously, others just go through an RCR and are magically changed beings suddenly
Clerics have changed faith on the server before but I am unsure if they have to go through an RCR or if a DM swapping out their domains and deity is enough. If you need your alignment changed, a DM may want to see some RP behind it.
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Re: Switching deities?
A very good read, thank you. Im basing it off something like this...a bit.will link to a post I made on this some time ago.
Basically the steps are,
-You lose all your powers.
-You do something for your new deity.
-A cleric of that new faith accepts you.
-You regain your powers.
Some take the RP steps more seriously, others just go through an RCR and are magically changed beings suddenly
I agree 100% with this. It would be like starting over, kinda.It would also be hard to justify your magical power level staying the same with the newfound faith, after a lifetime of strengthening the bond with your former god. So perhaps RCRing is even more attuned to the situation.
Thank you everyone for the great insight!
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Re: Switching deities?
A good read on this would be Adon as he switches from Sune to Mystra. I think it is covered in the last book of the ToT trilogy and in at least one short story.
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Re: Switching deities?
I'll look into this. Thank you!Planehopper wrote:A good read on this would be Adon as he switches from Sune to Mystra. I think it is covered in the last book of the ToT trilogy and in at least one short story.
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