Two weapon defense and shield ac

[Caelin]

Hey folks, I was hoping to get some clarification on two weapon defense. If I'm not mistaken it is stated that two weapon defense feats add shield ac. There exist rapiers out there that provide a bonus to shield ac. Is it safe to assume that these two would not stack? That a rapier with shield ac would simply replace the ac from two weapon fighting feats?

[chad878262]

Not sure but I think they would stack. TWD adds shield ac, but the shield spell (and I assume the rapier in question) would add enchantment bonus shield ac. So TWD would act as if holding a small shield while the rapier (I think) would act as a +3 enchantment bonus. Again, not certain about this, but it seems like that's how it should work.

[Steve]

Those rapiers are Shield armor bonus AC, so the rapiers probably don't stack with Shield spell and Shield wands.

TWF Defense feats stack with Shield spell.

[Blackman D]

the rapiers do not stack with the shield spell, it is the exact same spell just scripted

if TWD stacks with the shield spell then it should stack with the rapiers