Dervish and Scimitar

[matelener]

Considering how thematic scimitars are for dervishes, I'd like to suggest some ideas to make the following pnp ability happen:

Slashing Blades:
A dervish treats the scimitar as a light weapon (rather than a one-handed weapon) for all purposes, including fighting with two weapons.

I can think of these solutions:

1) Script checking for Weapon Finesse and adding Attack Bonus property to the scimitar equaling to EB + DEX - STR. This could also be used to fix Weapon Finesse not working with creature weapons. Additionally, dervish would get Oversized Two Weapon Fighting at level 1 (Problem: Attack Bonus will be added towards +20 AB cap)

2) Implementation of a new (small and light) weapon type requiring weapon proficiency only given by Dervish, adding appropriate weapon focus & specialization line of feats (problem: lots of work, accessibility problem before crafting goes live)

3) Scimitar appearance for kukris. (problem: every kukri wielder could have that appearance)

[mrm3ntalist]

Would that mean that you cant use power attack with scimitars since they are considered light weapons?

[matelener]

Would that mean that you cant use power attack with scimitars since they are considered light weapons?

In pnp he wouldn't be able. He treats scimitars as light for all purposes.

[joleda]

Is there a handaxe with a scimitar model?

[Calantyr]

I wish there was a feat that allowed DEX for AB with Longsword or Bastardsword, instead of STR (even if it disabled power attack).

[mrm3ntalist]

Would that mean that you cant use power attack with scimitars since they are considered light weapons?

In pnp he wouldn't be able. He treats scimitars as light for all purposes.

That could ruin existing builds. Both TWF and one handers. I dont see any way implementing scimitars as light weapons for Dervish.

[Theodore01]

The dervish class is powerful und fun to play as it is - it works well with dex- and str-based builds - no need to alter it at all.

There are some other classes that could really need a buff or some more build choices.

[matelener]

The point of this suggestion was not to make balancing changes to this class, but to enable a lore friendly way to play one. Anyway, I did some digging and it seems it's impossible to implement custom finessable weapons due to the engine limitations.

What about a simple solution like this?

3) Scimitar appearance for kukris. (problem: every kukri wielder could have that appearance)

Or kukris with a scimitar appearance and a class requirement Dervish, available in shops. (An anti-UMD script could also be added)

[NegInfinity]

The point of this suggestion was not to make balancing changes to this class, but to enable a lore friendly way to play one. Anyway, I did some digging and it seems it's impossible to implement custom finessable weapons due to the engine limitations.

What about a simple solution like this?

3) Scimitar appearance for kukris. (problem: every kukri wielder could have that appearance)

Or kukris with a scimitar appearance and a class requirement Dervish, available in shops. (An anti-UMD script could also be added)

UMD users will be able to equip those.
They will have different damage dice/critical factor. Kinda defeats the point.
Also, you will not be able to properly customize those.

I would kinda prefer dervish class using a real scimitar.

It might be possible to achieve desired effect by adding some "on equip" script similar to crossbow sniper - which will take two/one-handedness into account and add/remove attack/damage bonuses accordingly.

Should be theoretically doable, but it will be very tricky.