BARBARIAN NATURAL AC: Ice Troll Berserker / Whirlwind Rage

[Darradarljod]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone out there knows whether the Natural AC bonus from the Ice Troll Berserker feat will stack with Whirlwind Rage Natural AC bonus?

[Darradarljod]

Also, is there a cap on attribute scores? In particular, strength bonuses from Barbarian Rage and Frenzied Berserker Rage stack (as per feat description) - but I'm wondering if this bonus gets capped by an attribute limitation at any point.

For instance, if I have 21 strength and stack regular Rage (+4 str) and Berserker Rage (+6 str), will I get capped at 30 strength instead of achieving 31 strength?

[Rhifox]

There are attribute caps, but you haven't reached it yet.

[matelener]

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone out there knows whether the Natural AC bonus from the Ice Troll Berserker feat will stack with Whirlwind Rage Natural AC bonus?

Whirlwind Rage gives Dodge AC bonus so it will stack with ITB.

[The Whistler]

The attribute cap is +12.

[Darradarljod]

Thanks for your feedback guys. I'm a bit wary of ITB and Whirlwind because I seem to recall the description of ITB mentioning it wont stack with Whirlwind.

The ability cap refers to the maximum bonus applied from all magical and bonus effects. In NWN2, only the highest strength effect applies, wearing both a +4 belt of strength and a +2 ring of strength would give +4 strength, not +6. (The same is true for other abilities as well, such as INT, DEX etc.). The exception to this is Barbarian Rage, (not spell Rage), which stacks with other ability bonus. Bonuses from the Great Attribute feats (e.g. Great Strength) and the Red Dragon Disciples attribute increases are considered natural attributes (they can be used to meet pre-requisites for feats, they stack with bonuses with items and they don't count towards the +12 cap).

There is a literal ability cap for all effects that modders should be aware of. The ability score cap is +12.
Another non-ability cap to be aware of is the dodge AC cap, which is +20 - dodge bonuses stack, and there are many in the game.
As for the cap on Ability Scores themselves, NWN2 has a hardcoded ability score cap of 50 (+20 modifier). Any score above 50 will not work properly and will, in most cases, be treated as a score of 50.

[mrm3ntalist]

Thanks for your feedback guys. I'm a bit wary of ITB and Whirlwind because I seem to recall the description of ITB mentioning it wont stack with Whirlwind.

It does stack