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Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:01 pm
by Echo-01
Hey folks,

Since I'm not all that familiar with the available domains and what each on give you, I was hoping I could get some advice and suggestions on how to proceed with a cleric which follows an evil deity.

I'm guessing a pure cleric or one other multiclass would give me a nice build, just not sure how to go bout it.

Any suggestions?

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:14 pm
by thids
Are you thinking a caster cleric or a buffupandsmash one?

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:05 pm
by Akroma666
Stock Answer : Favored Soul 27, Black Guard 3.
Pretty straight forward, enjoy.

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:12 pm
by Echo-01
Buff'n'smash!

I've never played a Favored Soul, are they basically clerics with weapon focus feats?

Do I need charisma at all?

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:40 pm
by thids
Akroma666 wrote:Stock Answer : Favored Soul 27, Black Guard 3.
Pretty straight forward, enjoy.
That's not a cleric though, that's a favored soul. Big difference in roleplay.
Echo-01 wrote:Buff'n'smash!
If you don't have issues with Aasimar as a race, you can try 30 cleric. You end with 17wisdom 22str 22cha. Get EDM, evil domain so that you can turn both undead and outsiders and a few extra turning feats. Bane's domains aren't the greatest, but he does have Evil. For extra power you can go with Auril (Evil+water, which gives you evasion and opens up expose weakness), or Umberlee (same deal as Auril). Alternatively you can pick up 4 levels of Hierophant for empowered turning, though it's not needed much.

****SHAMELESS PLUG****
If you decide on a Banite cleric, and have questions regarding lore etc. and want to interact/join the Zhents feel free to pm me :D

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:06 pm
by Echo-01
Yeah I'm interested in playing a banite with you other banites!

Just need to figure out a good human cleric buff'n'smash build and I'll join you banite folk!

I'm not sure on what feats are a must for a cleric, which ones to avoid. Which are best for melee build. Anyone have a nwn2db build i can look at?

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:55 pm
by Maecius
Akroma666 wrote:
Echo-01 wrote:I've never played a Favored Soul, are they basically clerics with weapon focus feats?
Yes basically, although you get your spells differently and you need to be smarter with your spell selections as you dont get the whole library.
Echo-01 wrote:Do I need charisma at all?
Yes, ideally you build a EDM build with your FS and Charisma gives you more spells per day.
Thids wrote:
Echo-01 wrote:Yeah I'm interested in playing a banite with you other banites!

Just need to figure out a good human cleric buff'n'smash build and I'll join you banite folk!

I'm not sure on what feats are a must for a cleric, which ones to avoid. Which are best for melee build. Anyone have a nwn2db build i can look at?
http://nwn2db.com/build/?243996

Here's an example of that turner buff and smash build with EDM.

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:56 pm
by Maecius
Echo-01 wrote:Wow a pure class build! Haven't played one in a long time, looks nice and simple which is nice for a change.

Just wondering, how come you chose blindfight. Don't clerics have a spell to cover that sort of thing?

also, what are the extra 2 points of intelligence for? to get tumble?
mrm3ntalist wrote:
Echo-01 wrote:Wow a pure class build! Haven't played one in a long time, looks nice and simple which is nice for a change.

Just wondering, how come you chose blindfight. Don't clerics have a spell to cover that sort of thing?

also, what are the extra 2 points of intelligence for? to get tumble?
Blindfight is different than the spell blindsight. Blindfight allows you to roll again, if you missed an attack against a mob due to concealment.

The spell blindfight just allows you to see through invisibility.
Echo-01 wrote:Does anyone have a Fs27/BG3 nwn2db build I can look at? I'm making one right now to compare it with lvl 30 cleric.
Nyeleni wrote:Found this one: http://nwn2db.com/build/?80764

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:56 pm
by Maecius
Echo-01 wrote:Thanks for posting that build. It was a good start but it was obviously made by someone focusing purely on a powerbuild.

This is my Fs/Bg build. I didn't go below 10 in the stats I don't use because I don't like lowering them unless I have a good rp reason.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?244077

Did I miss any crucial feats before lvl 20?

My very last epic feat I chose +1 strength but I'm up for getting something else if someone could suggest a better use for it.

Also I noticed a few extra epic feats when I get over 25 charisma, are any of those worth it?

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

Re: Banite Cleric (or any evil Cleric) Build

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:45 am
by Thorsson
Doesn't the builder use the Kaedrin FS Epic count, which we don't? If so you only get Bonus Feats at 23 & 26. Not sure if you can take Extra Turning on an FS level either and I don't think that Tumble is a class skill for Blackguards. You should maybe create again using Storm of Zehir settings - editing the existing may be bugged.

You want to end on even Strength because of Divine Power.