Custom Changes post missing some class changes

[Rhifox]

Favored Soul and Spirit Shaman are missing from the Class Changes part of the Custom Changes sticky.

They should have:

Favored Soul

This class can now cross-class the Perform Skill. This class now has access to the Lore: Arcana, Local, and Religion skills.

Spirit Shaman

This class can now cross-class the Perform Skill. The class now has access to the Lore: Geography, History, Local, Nature, and The Planes skills. Spirit Shamans now receive Simple Weapon Proficiency at Level 1.

While talking about the custom changes to shaman, is there any chance of giving it Religion as a class skill? Druid and favored soul were already changed to include Religion as a class skill so that they could access Hierophant without having to multiclass, even though druids and favored souls do not have Religion as a class skill in sourcebooks, but the same was not done for shaman. As ranger was also given Lore: Religion (for some indecipherable reason), shaman is presently the only Divine casting base class that does not get Religion as a class skill. If a balance has to be made, then I recommend the removal of The Planes--this is similarly not a class skill for spirit shamans in sourcebooks.

Additionally, shaman available god list should really be opened up to include all gods. The nature deity list is only a strict requirement for druids and rangers, and BG already opened up the ranger list even though rangers in DnD are supposed to require a druid deity (this is another change that should be mentioned on the Class Changes, I think). Shamans meanwhile, while stated as tending to favor nature deities, are not lore-wise limited in such a way (Faiths and Avatars, a 2nd edition FR book, explicitly describes shamans in Tempus's clergy).

[Tsidkenu]

Not all rangers need to worship nature deities, though. Mystra will grant spells to rangers of the Order of the Shooting Star, for example (and one of her Chosen, Dove Falconhand, is a ranger). I'm sure there are ranger/scouts/assassins of evil non-nature gods as well.

I agree with the other suggestions.

[Rhifox]

Not all rangers need to worship nature deities, though. Mystra will grant spells to rangers of the Order of the Shooting Star, for example (and one of her Chosen, Dove Falconhand, is a ranger). I'm sure there are ranger/scouts/assassins of evil non-nature gods as well.

Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info. I was just going by Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide and Faiths and Pantheons, which specified that druids and rangers both had to follow the designated nature deities to get spells.

[Akroma666]

Fighters are now cross classing tumble. Might be worth adding too.

[Maecius]

Thanks guys. Updated all of the above. Keep 'em coming if you see anymore!

[realayer]

Fighters are now cross classing tumble. Might be worth adding too.

Does fighter really crossclass tumble now? Coz I try to create a new fighter but it does not have tumble as class skill.

[Akroma666]

It's a Cross-Class.. meaning it takes 2 points per 1 rank... not a class skill which is 1:1

[Blackman D]

fighters were never restricted from taking tumble as cross class tho, i used on mine just fine when he was originally leveled

only cross class that should have been opened up in mass should be perform

[Akroma666]

Fighters get tumble as a class skill normally. At least nwn2db says so.

[Rhifox]

Fighters get tumble as a class skill normally. At least nwn2db says so.

NWN2db uses Kaedrin's pack. Fighters in vanilla NWN2 and in Player's Handbook don't get Tumble as a class skill.

Ergo, the Custom Changes post should not say 'now have it as a cross-class skill' because that's the default.

[Akroma666]

Ah! My bad!

[Maecius]

Fixed--for reals!

Let us know if you see anything else. There's lots of updating to do and it's a big lift, so even little changes you notice like these are very helpful.

(Perhaps they're even especially helpful, as it's easy to overlook the little details.)

Thanks to Rhifox for helping make accurate information more available to our players.

[LISA100595]

Fixed--for reals!

Let us know if you see anything else. There's lots of updating to do and it's a big lift, so even little changes you notice like these are very helpful.

(Perhaps they're even especially helpful, as it's easy to overlook the little details.)

Thanks to Rhifox for helping make accurate information more available to our players.

Oh yes for sure - the custom spells and feats should be number one on the list. All of the new ones are not listed on the forum. I just checked again and tried to go to the lag-a-licious wiki page and when checking only one spell.. Programed Image.. it's not correct there either, so a simple copy and paste is probably not going to work.

[Rhifox]

Red Wizard should say, "Red Wizard no longer requires selecting a second prohibited school."

Invisible Blade is not on the list and should be added, with notes on what lore skills it has (due to being a PRC I cannot check this myself).

Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep is not on the list and should be added, with notes on what lore skills it has (presumably all).

Dwarven Defender is not on the list and should be added. Same notes as above.

Eldritch Knight is not on the list and should be added. Same notes as above.

Weapon Master is not on the list and should be added. Same notes as above.

[Young Werther]

Arch mage has a feat that allows +1 DC to a chosen school's saves which doesn't get listed on the forums here boy jim.