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Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:46 pm
by Master_Sarevok
So whats the recommended charisma score for a warlock. 14? 16?
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:34 am
by Karond
Master_Sarevok wrote:So whats the recommended charisma score for a warlock. 14? 16?
Probably somewhere in the region of 8.
That is, CON or DEX focused warlocks tend to be quite a bit better than the CHA based ones, and as with most things in this game it's better to focus entirely on something than to spread out your abilities to become a jack of all trades. Many invocations do fine without charisma, the best ones even, and the DCs are mediocre even if you focus on it.
So keep CHA at a minimum, unless you need it for something other than mechanical power.
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:32 pm
by Moltrazahn
I think you need 14 to cast all evocations tho.
Least: 11
Lesser: 12
Greater: 13
Dark: 14
Same mindset that casters need 19 to cast 9th level spells and bards need 16 charisma for their 6th level ones.
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:14 pm
by Eclypticon
Many of the DC based invocations were broken last time I heard. There are no real minimum CHA requirements when playing a warlock. CON blasters and HiPS locks are almost always better than CHA DC controllers. If you play drow, you can pull off both HiPS and DC however.
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:29 pm
by Kanada
Moltrazahn wrote:I think you need 14 to cast all evocations tho.
Least: 11
Lesser: 12
Greater: 13
Dark: 14
Same mindset that casters need 19 to cast 9th level spells and bards need 16 charisma for their 6th level ones.
This is just incorrect, sorry. You can be a warlock with any cha, even 6.
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:14 pm
by Tekill
I'm pretty happy with my chr DC lock. She has two control moves daze and knockdown . Doesnt work well on bosses but I can get a frost giant to fail a fair bit. I probably won't have much success on players but it is unlimited uses and is just a nice cherry on the top of each attack.
If you go chr DC warlock take black guard for great saves and divine shield....you become fairly tanky. I start to feel op until I get bigbyd. ...She keeps dying at the 'hands' of bigby spells.
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:06 pm
by Moltrazahn
Kanada wrote:Moltrazahn wrote:I think you need 14 to cast all evocations tho.
Least: 11
Lesser: 12
Greater: 13
Dark: 14
Same mindset that casters need 19 to cast 9th level spells and bards need 16 charisma for their 6th level ones.
This is just incorrect, sorry. You can be a warlock with any cha, even 6.
Really? Well that's fantastic news! *goes to nwn2.db with new plans of world domination*
Re: Blast DC, Warlock charisma
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:48 pm
by aaron22
have to agree with tekil on this one. the high cha also makes for some much better RP imho. you can blast just fine with a control style lock.