Blackguard / Warrior of Darkness

[Nachti]

Start Race: Aasimar (got driven mad)

Start Ability Scores:

16 Str
8 Dex
10 Con
14 Int
13 Wis
18 Cha

Classes: 10 Blackguard, 10 Warrior of Darkness, Fighter 10
2h with divine might or propably 1h + shield and feats.

Epic Progression:
21: WoD 9 -> Epic Charisma 1+2
22: WoD 10 -> Epic Charisma 3
23: BK -> Epic Divine Might
24: BK
25: BK -> DR 3
26: BK 10
27: F6 -> DR6 und DR9
28: F7
29: F9 -> Greater Weapon Focus
30: F10 -> Epic Weapon Focus

What you guys think?

Why 10 Blackguard: Because I like being a fiendish slave and hellhound suits it. Also Abyssal might for +3 str con and dex. So blackguard is a must in this build, WoD can be substituted if you have better ideas.

[metaquad4]

Pre-warning: At level 9, Blackguard gets the "final mode" on its companion. It has 113 HP, 30 AC, and 19 AB. It won't hold up past mid 10s, and will die fast.

I'd go for this:

Fighter 14/Blackguard 8 (If you want all the spells)/Frenzied Berserker 5/Rogue 3

http://nwn2db.com/build/?258272

[Nachti]

What about a 27 Ranger / 3 BG with hellhound pet?

[metaquad4]

Assuming improved natural bond exists here, it might be ok? But, 3 blackguard doesn't exactly add much. EDM will be hard to achieve, since you need DEX (AC, can only use light armor for ranger stuff), as well as STR/CHA (for EDM).

You could always just go pure ranger, worshipping perhaps Gargauth, or making contact with an evil god via a fiendish proxy. Or another ranger build. Pick up natural bond and epic animal companion for a full companion.

[Nachti]

Str Ranger not possible?

With two weapon defense feats and leather armor.

[chad878262]

STR ranger is the way to go. 16 DEX + cats grace and Mithral breast plate, max STR. The issue is you won't have an easy tone getting 21 STR and CHA as well as be able to hit 16 DEX, 11 WIS and serviceable INT/CON...it'd be a pretty min/maxed build.

[mrm3ntalist]

STR ranger is the way to go. 16 DEX + cats grace and Mithral breast plate, max STR. The issue is you won't have an easy tone getting 21 STR and CHA as well as be able to hit 16 DEX, 11 WIS and serviceable INT/CON...it'd be a pretty min/maxed build.

You only need 14DEX now using a Mith Chain mail for Max AC (6 base/4 Dex Bonus ).

However blackguard gimps the build in my view beacuse:
- Lose a bonus Epic feat
- Lose an FE ( that is big )
- Lose CL ( might have to spend another feat for PSC )
- Waste a feat for the cleave prereq
- Lose animal companion progression
- Waste two more feats for DM and EDM

All that for +7 on saves and EDM? I think it does not worth it. For a drow, IF cavestalker is reworked in order to be more ranger and druid friendly, then that would be a good class to multiclass with.

[Nachti]

I build my characters after a RP concept not maxed efficiency.

- Planar Ranger (Tiefling) with Hellhound Pet
- Nightwalker Monk (gifted Darkmoon Monk)
- Monk of Long Death (Monk that seeks the perfect kill before he falls to his illness)
- A man who sold his soul to the nine hells and obeys the commands of his master (Blackguard, something)
- Duergar Renegate Monk and Servant of the Flame.
- Caller of Demons (sees demons as the orginal rulers of faerun)

Its just not easy to get them playable. Theres no fun in having a pet that cant hold on its own, a monk that strength gets dispelled each other enemy group, a melee that deals no damage or eats too much damage...

[mrm3ntalist]

I build my characters after a RP concept not maxed efficiency.

There is your answer. You should go for it thenm if it fits your concept.

[7threalm]

barbarian 20/blackguard 10 is viable as well

20 barbarian is pretty strong now

just a pain to level

[thids]

I build my characters after a RP concept not maxed efficiency.

>Blackguard / Warrior of Darkness
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Start Race: Aasimar (got driven mad)

Okay then.


There's no shame in picking the optimized options when building characters. Seeing you trying put shame on it and attempting to sit on your high horse there while picking aasimar for a blackguard edm build is a bit ridiculous.

[Nachti]

Yes i know and i will consider if i really pick that race.

I just dont agree with the staff to allow only one Surface race with +2 cha and force alignment at the same time. Its some sort of protest.

[7threalm]

there are so many snowflaked assimar out there, its kind of a running joke to some of us

I just assume most humans are assasimar

[metaquad4]

Yes i know and i will consider if i really pick that race.

I just dont agree with the staff to allow only one Surface race with +2 cha and force alignment at the same time. Its some sort of protest.

The staff don't force alignment. A few players might think one way or another. But, most haven't actually looked it up at all.

An evil aasimar is just as likely as a good tiefling. There isn't anything unlikely about it at all. It just depends on their enviroment. There are some races/templates that are forced by rules to be a particular alignment, but none of them are playable. Some of our races are predisposed to certain alignments (like Aasimar is to good, tiefling is to evil, etc), but that doesn't mean that they will be that alignment by any means. It all depends on their backstory, and what actions you take IG.

You'd never see a DM smack you on the wrist and say "its not your nature" if you try to do an evil action That would be quite silly.

[The Whistler]

barbarian 20/blackguard 10 is viable as well

20 barbarian is pretty strong now

just a pain to level

I'm sorry for derailing the thread, but did barbarian get reworked ? I don't recall seeing anything related.