Evil Shrines Baldurs Gate

[7threalm]

Like most cities, Baldur's Gate had many places of worship. Untouched by the Spellplague, Baldur's Gate swelled in size and diversity. An impact was the formation of Twin Songs. Here temples and shrines to a great diversity of gods existed. All temples and shrines were accepted. Even shrines devoted to the worship of evil were ignored by the Flaming Fists.[4] Although home to many temples, the city's most renowned and well known were:

so where is the server time line did certain religions get outlawed at the gate- is that a dm driven thing.

is there any lore before the spell plague that only allows good/neutral dieities?

[Ariella]

That started as a DM ruling way way back, That has since become a very heavily player driven thing.

[7threalm]

well with zhents being allowed in, as well as red wizards, perhaps its time to re-evalute the rule.

In my opinion the flaming fist don't care as long as your not forcing you dieity down the throats of the people directly and offering decent bribes along the way.

[Ariella]

The Zhents and Red Wizards got in by pushing that RP goal, Its not a rule to be re-evaluated OOC. But good luck to you, There are a few active goodly faiths that have a strong foothold in the Gate that would make it challenging to get the law changed.

[JCVD1]

Jesus.

Go for it and try.

Come to the evil ones in the city if you need support. It doesn'T matter how many goodly faiths there are. Umberlee is the major temple of the city.

[7threalm]

do you know where the rule is written and when?

[Ariella]

Jesus.

Go for it and try.

Come to the evil ones in the city if you need support. It doesn'T matter how many goodly faiths there are. Umberlee is the major temple of the city.

Actually its currently Ilmater First, Umberlee Second and Gond Third. With Helm and Tempus trailing behind as they had received an increase during the war. Because player initiative.

[JCVD1]

do you know where the rule is written and when?

It was a rule made despite of the lore, pretty much like the Cowled Wizards being law enforcers in Amn, which they aren't. They are even outlaws. ( I know it was made thinking that BG2 game was pure cannon)

I doubt we still have forum posts about it.

[Tsidkenu]

And BGTSCC as a custom campaign module has diverged from standard 'lore' in this regard, which is perfectly fine. If you want to change it again, get IG and start working towards that end.

[The Whistler]

The worship of pretty much every god on the evil spectrum bar Umberlee has been outlawed in BG. It is a relic of an ancient DM team in the less enlightened days of BG that makes 0 sense from a logical point of view. It is one thing to disallow the building of Torture houses to Loviatar in your city and another thing entirely to ban your citizens from appeasing VERY fickle gods of destruction on pain of death amongst other things.

As others have said, it's pretty much become entrenched in the server's lore and is being militantly enforced by good PCs who met absolutely no resistance because all the boogeymen had already been banned . Revoking it will be an uphill battle, and the DMs will have to pitch in quite a bit. Even moustache twirling villains like the Zhentarim have the common sense to not outright ban worship of good gods in their home city, but rather disincentivize it quite a bit. Outlawing worship of evil deities bent on destruction is inviting bad things to happen to your people.

[7threalm]

that a lot of gods to stick a middle finger at as a ruler. Esp for a major port city on the sword coast.
What is it well over 30 deities?

So a sailor captain gets off the ship at the port offers a few prayers set up an alter to


Beshaba was revered more out of fear than out of religious faith. Her doctrine stated that bad luck befell everybody and the only way to avoid it was by worshiping her.

The flaming fist come along and punch him in face saying/and smashes the alter - that god is not allowed in our city Be on your way?

I could understand some backwoods Inn doing that but not a city of commerce. Where different cultures and backgrounds go to trade and must likely spread their religion dogma etc.

[Ariella]

that a lot of gods to stick a middle finger at as a ruler. Esp for a major port city on the sword coast.
What is it well over 30 deities?

So a sailor captain gets off the ship at the port offers a few prayers set up an alter to


Beshaba was revered more out of fear than out of religious faith. Her doctrine stated that bad luck befell everybody and the only way to avoid it was by worshiping her.

The flaming fist come along and punch him in face saying/and smashes the alter - that god is not allowed in our city Be on your way?

I could understand some backwoods Inn doing that but not a city of commerce. Where different cultures and backgrounds go to trade and must likely spread their religion dogma etc.

A lot of goodly city's do not allow evil faiths?. Fear Beshaba or you shall have bad luck! Or just be bold and Tymora will give you good luck. Its a really easy sell. Also its not all evil gods are restricted there is a list of a few.

[7threalm]

Baldurs gate is not a goodly city in lore, they have what 1 chaotic good leader in the bunch.

and there population is 86,000 - 115,000[6] in 1358 DR

so 10 players conviced 80,000 people that the other gods are bad and outlawed them.


I could see that kind of action in a place like Elturel - where their leadership is mostly religious
and there population is 22,671[1] in 1372 DR

definitely lore breaking not bending breaking in my opinion,

Tried to find the list, doesnt seem to be anywhere

[Ariella]

1 Good 3 Neutral is still learning towards good, But if we break down the non player made city's. BG is the closest thing the server has to a good city, While supporting several evil city's/town and a few neutral city's/towns.

[The Whistler]

If BG was neutral like it's supposed to be in canon lore there would be no need for safe spaces for goodies and baddies alike. RPing in a bubble really is dull regardless of corresponding alignments.