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Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:18 am
by dzidek1983
It's light per weapon description, but can it be used with weapon finesse.
If not then for what character build is the designed flaif with hide and move silently bonus.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:27 am
by matelener
Weapon finesse doesn't work with it because the list of weapons the feat works with is hardcoded.
Those hide/ms flails can be good on an STR ranger.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:50 am
by dzidek1983
ok thx for the reply
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:01 am
by Theodore01
and these 'flails' can be used in your offhand.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:15 am
by chad878262
I am pretty sure they were given the short sword template (that's why they require simple or rogue and do piercing damage and crit on 19-20 x 2) specifically to circumvent the Weapon Finesse issue. However, since a previous test showed that Weapon Focus: Flail works with the offhand flails I will run a test on this to see if Weapon Finesse applies or not.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:14 am
by Sun Wukong
I suppose it would be good to test Power Attack as well. Since that might pop up as well.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:40 am
by chad878262
Comments Only wrote:I suppose it would be good to test Power Attack as well. Since that might pop up as well.
BAH! You're killing me CO!
J/K, that's a good idea. I tried this AM, but there were no DM's online (I need them because the QC store only has a Flail, not a flail). Not sure if I will get time to test it for about a week, but I will try. I leave Saturday for Paris for a work trip and my son's baseball season just started yesterday so this may sit for a week or two. However, if anyone comes up with additional flail related questions, just post them here and whenever I do get a chance to get in game (and am able to secure DM assistance) I will run whatever tests are requested. Apologies if the delay causes anyone issued with their build, family and work first and all that.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:39 am
by Boddynock
Comments Only wrote:I suppose it would be good to test Power Attack as well. Since that might pop up as well.
It does not work with power attack, unless something has changed since I last bought some.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:14 pm
by clean_slate
Can one dual - wield these flails?
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:20 pm
by Theodore01
yes Flail and flail
or
flail and flail works.
But Flail and Flail not.
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:38 pm
by clean_slate
Theodore01 wrote:yes Flail and flail
or
flail and flail works.
But Flail and Flail not.
Could you please elaborate?
Re: Light Flail in Mermaids Tavern Basement
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:04 pm
by Theodore01
clean_slate wrote:Can one dual - wield these flails?
yes
and you can dual-wield a 'standard' Flail (mainhand) and a 'flail' (offhand)