Net Nuetrality

[Kagger911]

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

This is a battle for the
future of the internet
Comcast, Verizon and AT&T want to end net neutrality so they can charge extra fees to control what we see & do online. On July 12, we take the first step to stop them. This is a battle for the Internet's future. Before you do anything else, send a letter to the FCC & Congress now!



That means our little server could be charged extra to just even be made to run.

[Hoihe]

Americans learned from us Hungarians when it came to building walls on southern borders.

Now it's time you learn from us again, and do what we did when the government proposed to exorbitantly tax the internet.

[Kagger911]

Americans learned from us Hungarians when it came to building walls on southern borders.

Now it's time you learn from us again, and do what we did when the government proposed to exorbitantly tax the internet.

Wasn't that funded by George Soros? The same guy funding Antifa?

[Hoihe]

I've no idea who funded it, but pretty much every single person living near Budapest with the ability to attend who has an interest in technology did.

As for Soros, the Hungarian government spends way too much money producing propaganda painting him as the devil that I stopped caring about him.

[Nyeleni]

Soros is certainly no angel but what the hungarian government is doing reminds me a lot of the fascist governments between the world wars.

Unfortunately I don't have a congressist to write to. But it will affect the whole world if this goes through.

Countries without democracies already try to control what their population may see on the internet. If democracies follow suit this will be a pretty dark internet soon.

[DiceyCZ]

Well first, let me tell you that I honestly hope you people from USA can get them not to implement the "reverse" of Net neutrality laws.

@Nyeleni
Although I would hardly say it's bad for people everywhere, it's not like other democratic countries started thinking about letting ISP sell your usage data to third party after america did...lot of internet things America does is kinda backwards and doesn't really affect others.

Either way, good luck fighting the new head FCC guy - or as I call him, evil Apu.

[Aspect of Sorrow]

There's huge bounties underway for mesh wireless networking replacements that circumvents the need of an ISP. Their days are numbered.

Qualcomm equipment is being used for some of these, with radius reaches of 17 miles LOS from a device no bigger than your phone at 2.2 Gbps MIMO. These are all on unlicensed spectrums that the ISPs lobbied for.

Coupled with Ubiquiti hardware for long range hauls thatre relatively cheap to purchase and maintain, this is likely what will force the hand.

https://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber5/

It's sad this is what we've come to, but at the same time being able to sidestep harmful and pointless laws aided by corporate misguidance is empowering.

[chad878262]

I always have hated that 'cutting the cord' on the cable company still requires me to pay them for my internet service... However, there aren't really any other options currently which are realistic. (obviously I am not going to use some dial up service or one of the services that charge based on data usage)

I would be very interested in hearing more about these 'mesh wireless networking replacements'... Is that something like solar power, allowing you to access the internet directly from a location without paying for an ISP? It would be awesome to tell them to stick it because they have horrible business models. You look at technology and Cable is an outdated technology that all providers keep charging more and more for, it appears that since they are also the primary ISP's they are now applying the same business model to Internet. Greed really is a hallmark of human existence. For all the good people in the world we somehow constantly allow the worst of us to hold the positions of wealth and power (for the most part).

[Laughingman]

My friend was talking about those way back in the mid 2000's.

Anyways popular support won't matter for this one. There is a one party regime in charge of the house, Senate, executive, and supreme Court. They will pass whatever rules their corporate backers pay for.

[CleverUsername123]

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[Tsidkenu]

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Please post with the above in mind.

Thank you.

[V'rass]

Anyways popular support won't matter for this one. There is a one party regime in charge of the house, Senate, executive, and supreme Court. They will pass whatever rules their corporate backers pay for.

They can pass whatever they like, does not mean i will abide by it or not find a way to get around it.

[Laughingman]

Sadly that is not how it works.

I looked it up and due to commerce clauses in the Federal Constitution states won't be able to circumvent it either. I am still going to write my state rep though since the FCC is probably going to rule against public wishes.

For those who don't know Americans wrote in to comment on the FCC rulings in record numbers twice now. Both times numbering Millions of comments when normally they receive virtually none.

[V'rass]

Sadly that is not how it works.

Oh i will find ways to circumvent it... and im sure plenty of other people will too. Again they can pass whatever laws they like but i will not obey them. Screw the Govt, they can have my internet when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

[Hoihe]

Sadly that is not how it works.

Oh i will find ways to circumvent it... and im sure plenty of other people will too. Again they can pass whatever laws they like but i will not obey them. Screw the Govt, they can have my internet when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

As before: learn from Hungary.

The Hungarian government is infamous in Europe for having total control of legislative, executive and judical with the ruling party making laws that make election of opposition harder, with opposition ran newspapers running into legal issues or getting bought up by pro-government companies.

They still shied away from the Internet tax after we did some protesting. And it was peaceful protests too, all we did was flood Budapest with people with smartphones in hand and held them up like torches. Blocked a few bridges and all.

No violence was done by anyone.

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Granted, 11 years ago people did this. Was done against the previous government after a football match.