CHA-Front Line Fighter

[Kasus_Cloud]

Hey folks, so I'm looking for a bit of help. I want to roll a melee combatant with a healthy portion of diplomacy/bluff/intimidation. Maybe, 15-16 CHA. Using a greatsword/bastard sword, maybe having some divine spellcasting, maybe not. It'd be nice to have some spellcasting capabilities, but I don't want to rely on them for every single fight.

I believe fighter and Divine Champion may offer some of what I'm after, but I'm looking to add to it, maybe get a leveling path written down. I figure this type of build may be a tall order, but let me know your thoughts!

[aaron22]

FvS26/Pali4
your welcome
have fun

[chad878262]

The issue with that FvS is that it is quite dependent upon buffing up. P26/M@A4 would be some spell casting w/ a few extra's from M@A. Could also go with something like Fighter/Black Guard/Ghost Faced Killer for Pseudo Spell casting. Or you could go for Bard26/BG4 for EDM/Divine Shield with Bard spell casting. Or just leave CHA at 13/14 and max STR going B26/R4 (or Whirling Dervish 4 if there would be an XP penalty) for lots of skills plus evasion/expose weakness. The biggest issue is that most classes which grant spell casting are also dependent on it except in rare circumstances like M20/C3/SF7.

[Valefort]

Fighter 12 / Divine champion 10 / cleric 3 / WM 5 ?

http://nwn2db.com/build/?278463

Good all around as far as I'm concerned.

[Steve]

If you go 10 levels of Divine Champion, you only need 20 CHA max, so that Divine Wrath is 10 levels/2 + CHA bonus (10 rounds max).

Fighter 12 / Divine Champion 10 / Paladin 4 (CHA bonus to saves...or Blackguard 4) / 5 Anointed Knight. Put DEX at 13 for getting +3 DEX item and Mithral Full Plate—their cheap now!!!—and a Tower shield, and your AC will be good enough. You can also take Aasimar as race and probably score EDM.

Max UMD to 16 and plus your CHA thats 21 or more...enough to use some magic when it counts.

Something god awful like this: http://nwn2db.com/build/?278464

[aaron22]

any melee focused build like a barb, fighter, monk or MaA/cleric>8 would have access to some short term super buffs like Divine Power and Recitation. they wont last long, but that might be what you are looking for. i dont think this is a optimized plan, but could work just fine.

[Tsidkenu]

How about MaA 26/Pal 4? EDM of course No spells but it sure gunna be tanky!

[Kasus_Cloud]

FvS26/Pali4
your welcome
have fun

The issue with that FvS is that it is quite dependent upon buffing up. P26/M@A4 would be some spell casting w/ a few extra's from M@A. Could also go with something like Fighter/Black Guard/Ghost Faced Killer for Pseudo Spell casting. Or you could go for Bard26/BG4 for EDM/Divine Shield with Bard spell casting. Or just leave CHA at 13/14 and max STR going B26/R4 (or Whirling Dervish 4 if there would be an XP penalty) for lots of skills plus evasion/expose weakness. The biggest issue is that most classes which grant spell casting are also dependent on it except in rare circumstances like M20/C3/SF7.

any melee focused build like a barb, fighter, monk or MaA/cleric>8 would have access to some short term super buffs like Divine Power and Recitation. they wont last long, but that might be what you are looking for. i dont think this is a optimized plan, but could work just fine.

Man I've gotten so much help! Thank you guys! Everyone's advice and insight was very helpful!


Now let me build off of my original concept, as I've narrowed down some things which I would really like to have for a build, and things that might help narrow things down in terms of the build. Sorry if it makes it harder.


1. I'd like to not be alignment-locked to Lawful Good. Chaotic or Neutral Good, maybe True Neutral or Chaotic Neutral. This of course means Pallys may not be the best fit. At the end of the day, I MAY settle for this, but only if I have to.

2. I would prefer to utilize Greatswords or Bastard Swords. But I'm not opposed to using Diety's Favored Weapon on an occasion. (dual wielding Maces to honor Lathandar's shitty choice in weapons, for example).

3. I figure I'll either have a lot of CON or a lot of STR (more than CHA) But I do want to start out with a little bit of CHA.

4. Talking my way out of a fight and/or into people's hearts is the main focus of CHA. That and Divine Champion getting a power up. Besides that, its not the most important skill for me (that would either be CON or STR, for surviving or for cleaving.)

5. I figure I may want some of the 13 INT feats. Am I correct in that assumption? Or would I want 13 Dex feats more? Or neither? Leave me your thoughts.


This might make things a little bit more difficult, but tell me what you guys can come up with!

~Kas

[Thorsson]

With those alignment restrictions EDM would have to come from Cleric.

F12/Cl4/MaA4/DC or AK10 would work OK I think, especially if Cleric had Water Domain for Evasion/Expose Weakness.

Alternately, forget EDM and go for IPA with FB5 - maybe F12/FB5/MaA3/DC or AK10.

[Kasus_Cloud]

With those alignment restrictions EDM would have to come from Cleric.

F12/Cl4/MaA4/DC or AK10 would work OK I think, especially if Cleric had Water Domain for Evasion/Expose Weakness.

Alternately, forget EDM and go for IPA with FB5 - maybe F12/FB5/MaA3/DC or AK10.

thanks for your help, you've given me an idea as to how I wish to build said character! The two things I do want to mention

1. It states MaA isn't available for Non-Lawfuls. This the case?

2. I'm still new to the scene, what does EDM stand for?

[Zanniej]

1. It states MaA isn't available for Non-Lawfuls. This the case?

That is true

2. I'm still new to the scene, what does EDM stand for?

Epic Divine Might

[aaron22]

if you are not opposed to the evil lines. could go melee lock19/r3/FB5/BG3. invos that buff convo skills along with invo charm (which is more fun to use in RP than actual game). get a nice bump to dmg in the form of >10d6 blast dice. rogue gives alot of skill points to go into those convo skills along with evasion which opens EW in epics. wear MBP and you are good. 16 dex+Leaps maxes your armor. FB gives supreme cleave and Enhanced IPA. BG turns your cha bonus into saves and gives you an aura. seems like a cool build with lots of RP attached to it.

[Kasus_Cloud]

if you are not opposed to the evil lines. could go melee lock19/r3/FB5/BG3. invos that buff convo skills along with invo charm (which is more fun to use in RP than actual game). get a nice bump to dmg in the form of >10d6 blast dice. rogue gives alot of skill points to go into those convo skills along with evasion which opens EW in epics. wear MBP and you are good. 16 dex+Leaps maxes your armor. FB gives supreme cleave and Enhanced IPA. BG turns your cha bonus into saves and gives you an aura. seems like a cool build with lots of RP attached to it.

Ah. It wouldn't befit the base RP character model I have in mind right now. Not the greatest guy in the world but certainly not evil, and having a hearty balance between talking it out and bashing people's faces in. This is a great recommendation though and I will certainly save this for future character concepts!

[Kasus_Cloud]

1. It states MaA isn't available for Non-Lawfuls. This the case?

That is true

2. I'm still new to the scene, what does EDM stand for?

Epic Divine Might

You have my thanks! I figured it was something like that.

[Kasus_Cloud]

I've now narrowed it down to a general idea of what I'm going for.

Fighter 12 and FB 5 would greatly help with the DPS side of things. Divine Champion of at least 5 will give me that holy feel. Finally, I figure it may be worth having EDM, so Cleric of Sun and Good, giving a boost to my Turning and an immunity to fear. That means at least 3 levels in cleric as well. With all this in mind, could anyone give me a set level up path I should take?