Monk of the Long Death

[SilentLord]

I would like to discuss a Monk's Package, named Monk of the Long Death. Despite being called "monk", it looks like he loses most of monk's core features, which he should keep, while taking the PrC.

My suggestion is to add following feats:
According to class information given, the only thing about "true" Monk bonuses progression is done with AC bonus: to do it, it seems like Sacred Fists's AC Bonus was copied and renamed. So, I suggest following additions to MotLD, since each of them follows strictly to PhB version.

Unarmed damage - Surprisingly, there is nothing in description about MotLD progressing in unarmed damage, and it is vital for any monk. According to PhB he should to do so, just as Sacred Fist - stacking his MotLD levels with Monk to determine Unarmed Damage progression bonus. The easiest way to fix it - just copy Sacred Fists's Unarmed Damage feat.

Fast Movement - the same thing as above. MotLD gets it by PhB, just like Sacred Fist, adding his package levels to Monk for speed bonuses. Easiest way - just copy "Fast Movement" ability from Sacred Fist Prestige Class.

Poison Use - Both class concept and PhB indicates MotLD getting this feat at 1st level of class.

Source: Player's Guide to Faerûn, p. 65-66

[Tsidkenu]

MotLD already continues progression in Monk Unarmed Damage & Speed Bonus. They do not progress with Ki Fist - Lawful or Ki Fist - Adamantine.

Use Poison would be fairly simple to throw in at kit level 1 I suppose.

[Hendrak]

Also there is no penality to the Kit if you activate it on lvl 16 Monk. Then the following level should be all MotLD level. Altough as i used it it already activates for the level you choose to proceed as MotLD which seems to be wrong. as all other kits work for following levels.

Also it counted the levels negativly and i didnt get any bonus from MotLD as i used it. No idea if its repaired. I would avoid it till its secure to use it.

[SilentLord]

MotLD already continues progression in Monk Unarmed Damage & Speed Bonus. They do not progress with Ki Fist - Lawful or Ki Fist - Adamantine.

Use Poison would be fairly simple to throw in at kit level 1 I suppose.

Well, as I understood, they should not progress Ki Fists or any active abilities from base Monk class already (just as Sacred Fist), so it is done correctly.
By the way, can I pick one level of MotLD, stop progression, pick another level of monk, start MotLD and pick 2nd level, then stop it again, pick a Monk level and etc. can I alternate between progressions, or once I stop it, I stop it forever?

[Hendrak]

If it works correctly it should be possible to stop Kit progression and activate it at a later point again.

[SilentLord]

Are MotLD levels counted as Monk levels for Intuitive Attack feat?

[Hendrak]

Yes, they should be.

[Tsidkenu]

MotLD is not a PRC. It's a monk kit.

The most important thing about all class kits is that their levels are equivalent to base class levels.

A Monk 5/MotLD25 is identical to Monk 30 when it comes to bonus epic feats, Monk AC, monk speed, monk unarmed damage, spell resistance, etc (notwithstanding the lost feats for taking the kit).

Also,

I would avoid it till its secure to use it.

Class kits still have plenty of bugs about them.

[SilentLord]

MotLD is not a PRC. It's a monk kit.

The most important thing about all class kits is that their levels are equivalent to base class levels.

A Monk 5/MotLD25 is identical to Monk 30 when it comes to bonus epic feats, Monk AC, monk speed, monk unarmed damage, spell resistance, etc (notwithstanding the lost feats for taking the kit).

Also,

I would avoid it till its secure to use it.

Class kits still have plenty of bugs about them.

Epic feats are saved? Neat!

But still... I think it is not right: according to PhB it is a full 10-level prestige class with all good and ill coming from it.

[Tsidkenu]

And it used to be a 10 level PRC-in-development, but it was changed to utilise Rasael's base-class kit system. The 10 level PRC was pretty weak, and not even 25 kit levels are much better. It's a good flavour class for monk, although pure non-kitted monk remains superior.

[SilentLord]

It's a kit instead of a prc because of a limitation: custom prcs can't advance monk fist damage/feats progression, or we haven't found a way to make it work.

Copying feats of "AC Bonus", "Unarmed Damage" and "Fast Movement" from already-existing Sacred Fist PrC didn't work?