I figured out a good idea for a character and I want help making a warlock build that works really well. I'm gonna list things I want from most to least, but if the build has to sacrifice something to work, I understand.
1. Human. 100%.
2. Frost themed! I don't know how doable this is, but the more icy the build the better. I want to be the chillest dude in the room.
3. Melee! Melee warlock please.
4. Survivability. I don't want to die when someone squints at me oddly.
5. Some free skill points, if possible. Human should make this easier. I want to be able to pick a Lore or Survival or Diplomacy/Intimidate if I want without sacrificing too much.
6. Soloability. I don't want to be handheld.
7. Fey-leaning touches to abilities and/or feats. Not a necessity, but it could help.
8. Barbarian levels for melee stuff might be neat. Also for RP.
I understand warlock is one of the classes that's easy to build right and hard to really screw up, but I'm still learning the ins and outs of the server and haven't touched Warlock here yet. I'm playing it safe and seeing what people think works.
Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
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Khazrak
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Sun Wukong
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Re: Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
It doesn't have the highest AB, only about 38~, or 40~ when flanking: http://nwn2db.com/build/?284545
But you do have have that Hideous Blow and Epic Divine Might going for you, with haste, so as long as you get your one hit in, you are winning. Don't forget to use your summons, more targets for the enemy and all that.
Your saves should be great.
The build is kind of missing the numbers 7 and 8 on your list.
But you do have have that Hideous Blow and Epic Divine Might going for you, with haste, so as long as you get your one hit in, you are winning. Don't forget to use your summons, more targets for the enemy and all that.
Your saves should be great.
The build is kind of missing the numbers 7 and 8 on your list.
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Khazrak
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Re: Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
That's a fascinating take. A few questions:
1) Are there any good ways of mitigating the somewhat low-ish BAB? (Besides, obviously, using blasts that don't have to roll to-hit.)
2) Does EDM apply to targeted blasts, or just the character's weapon/unarmed attacks?
3) Do you think it's fair to RP a character whose beliefs would be classified as neutral but whose situation - and thus the choices they've made - make them evil? (See: "I hate what I've become, but if I try to break my contract terrible stuff will happen, and I like keeping my soul right now.") Ergo, their sheet alignment is evil, but they might normally behave neutrally if not for their pact.
4) Would the character be stronger if they weren't melee-oriented?
5) What do the Shadow Demons look like? Shadows?
For now, I'm gonna build the warlock like you've made it for level 1 and just RCR later if I want to change it up.
1) Are there any good ways of mitigating the somewhat low-ish BAB? (Besides, obviously, using blasts that don't have to roll to-hit.)
2) Does EDM apply to targeted blasts, or just the character's weapon/unarmed attacks?
3) Do you think it's fair to RP a character whose beliefs would be classified as neutral but whose situation - and thus the choices they've made - make them evil? (See: "I hate what I've become, but if I try to break my contract terrible stuff will happen, and I like keeping my soul right now.") Ergo, their sheet alignment is evil, but they might normally behave neutrally if not for their pact.
4) Would the character be stronger if they weren't melee-oriented?
5) What do the Shadow Demons look like? Shadows?
For now, I'm gonna build the warlock like you've made it for level 1 and just RCR later if I want to change it up.
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Sun Wukong
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Re: Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
1) UMD; Wand of Bless for +1 AB, etc... Potion of Heroism for +2 AB. That 40~ AB is more or less fine for the server, and I think Hideous Blow fires with the first hit landed, so in theory you just need one hit landing per round. (You got seven attacks per round with haste.)
2) Melee/unarmed/ranged weapons only.
3) I would just be evil. But you can drop Blackguard and go Chaotic Neutral with cleric for Divine Might. You will lose Dark Blessing, the 6th BAB based attack, but you do not have to get Cleave feat or be evil.
4) Another way to make a melee warlock is to go for a high strength build. You get no Epic Divine Might, nor Divine Shield for AC, and your saves will be much lower. But a Warlock 16/Barbarian 4/Dragon Slayer 10 should work in a similar enough fashion. It would have higher AB by default.
And yes, Constitution based warlock would be superior. You could get the Fey heritage feats, and Fast Healing, and just blast, and blast, and blast.
5) Probably just like wraiths. (Myrkul)
2) Melee/unarmed/ranged weapons only.
3) I would just be evil. But you can drop Blackguard and go Chaotic Neutral with cleric for Divine Might. You will lose Dark Blessing, the 6th BAB based attack, but you do not have to get Cleave feat or be evil.
4) Another way to make a melee warlock is to go for a high strength build. You get no Epic Divine Might, nor Divine Shield for AC, and your saves will be much lower. But a Warlock 16/Barbarian 4/Dragon Slayer 10 should work in a similar enough fashion. It would have higher AB by default.
And yes, Constitution based warlock would be superior. You could get the Fey heritage feats, and Fast Healing, and just blast, and blast, and blast.
5) Probably just like wraiths. (Myrkul)
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- Elminster, probably.
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Khazrak
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Re: Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
Is there an example of a constitution-based warlock floating around you can throw at me to peer at for myself? I'm a little surprised CONlocks are a thing, given that save DCs are based around Charisma. Right?
Overall, I'm pretty intrigued by this setup. Both the CONlock and the warlock you've designed sound super interesting to me. Both can fit the feel I want.
Overall, I'm pretty intrigued by this setup. Both the CONlock and the warlock you've designed sound super interesting to me. Both can fit the feel I want.
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Sun Wukong
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Re: Build Request: Melee warlock OR Cold-themed Warlock!
Yes, constitution based warlocks are a thing. You can just blast Eldritch Chain, and not exactly worry about the saves.
http://nwn2db.com/build/?284550
With a +3 Constitution item, you got 480 hitpoints, and 12/Cold Iron Damage Reduction, and 6 points of Healing. You could say that the topic of AC is slightly less of an concern.
I think your unmodified Elditch Blast does about 94.5~ damage a blast, that is 47.25~ to the secondary Eldritch Chain targets.
http://nwn2db.com/build/?284550
With a +3 Constitution item, you got 480 hitpoints, and 12/Cold Iron Damage Reduction, and 6 points of Healing. You could say that the topic of AC is slightly less of an concern.
I think your unmodified Elditch Blast does about 94.5~ damage a blast, that is 47.25~ to the secondary Eldritch Chain targets.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.