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Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:43 pm
by Akroma666
Can you run both of these at the same time?

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:23 pm
by Akroma666
for that matter, can you also run expose weakness and thus be running all 3 at once?

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:19 am
by Hendrak
You can use Flurry of Blows (a combat mode) with Northlander Hewing (a combat stance) at the same time. My guess is you can also use Expose Weakness at the same time (it shouldnt count as stance because it was originaly an activation feat like fiery fists).

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:24 am
by electric mayhem
Expose and Flurry work at same time.

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:03 pm
by Akroma666
chambordini wrote:Northlander hewing though, does not work with unarmed attack.
Valefort wrote:Atm NH works unarmed.
Got mixed answers, can someone on QC test and confirm?

Also, what is the stance on this, should it be allowed or is it working as intended?

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:49 pm
by Valefort
NH works with gloves, I just can't help think it's dumb, can't really picture it IC wise.

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:54 pm
by Akroma666
Valefort wrote:NH works with gloves, I just can't help think it's dumb, can't really picture it IC wise.
Agreed, should be removed IMO.

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:45 pm
by Steve
Valefort wrote:NH works with gloves, I just can't help think it's dumb, can't really picture it IC wise.
Northlander hewing is a style of combat made famous by the Northern barbarian tribes, who are reknowned for the savage strength they can put behind each blow.
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Granted...those are more like glove-gauntlets. :roll:

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:06 pm
by Theodore01
And it's a barbarian style, not a monks. (Please remove it.)

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:25 pm
by Quidix
If removed, should it also only work with some types of weapons? Does it really make sense for it to work with sickles, daggers etc...?

Anyhow, NH and FoB does work together, but when I tried a build with it in the testing module, NH doesn't get the benefit of the 2nd FoB attack - not sure if this has been changed since though (5 base attacks + flurry should have resulted in 5 NH attacks, but you "only" get 4)

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:39 pm
by Rudolph
I think of it as big-swing haymakers - which is why there are fewer attacks. Makes good sense as a feature: the oddness, if any, is mostly in the name, I think. I disagree with removing it for Unarmed. Unnecessarily takes away a fighting style option for Barbarian boxers who go in hard and heavy rather than Bruce Lee like.

Re: Northlander Hewing & Flurry of Blows

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:42 pm
by Rudolph
Re. number of attacks: I remember Valefort pointing out once that now NH takes away a third of your attacks (rounded up), counting in the bug one from Flurry. So if you have 5 attacks +2 from Flurry, you lose 3.