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[DreadArtemis]

Hello there!

Havent been on in ages but wanted to come back and give it a spin.

Main question is what attack bonus is necessary to be viable endgame?

I was making a gish and have a choice to end with 30 str/22 int or 18 str/32 int. The int route would utilize combat insight. It apears that the damage will be a wash for me , but the intelligence lends to higher skill amounts for RP and other skills for a complete set of fun stuff.

Of course, the Str route would have a higher to hit in the end. 6 higher to hit for the str build. What would be a reasonable amount of attack bonus, and what would ideal number be (obviously higher)?

Thanks in advance! I dont want to go through the motions of leveling and gearing something that would be ineffective. Not really looking to polymorph either as I would like to keep my beautiful form.

Also, the intelligence route would allow my spell DCs to not be complete garbage and get extra spell slots, but my main concern is to hit. I personally would prefer the intelligence route for the skill points but was curious what the 'endgame' stats should look like.

[Rhifox]

Minimum AB target is about 34, though 40+ is recommended if you can.

[DreadArtemis]

Ah alright, thanks for the heads up.

The str build was hitting 49, and the int build was hitting 43. Seems like I might lean in on the Int then.

[Hoihe]

If making a gish, I strongly recommend either going for a build that gets 30 cl, or giving up on the idea of buffing and instead building in a way that you can get by without any buffs.

[chad878262]

34 AB is minimum if we are talking about a build that utilizes HiPS or Feint or at minimum Expose Weakness (which will take a few rounds to apply AC penalty. If we are talking about a straight gish without any of the above feats I would say you really want as close to 40 as possible. I have played a bladesinger with 39 AB (40 w/ Haste) and that was fine, but I would not go lower than ~38 and even then I would only do so in a BS type build where I plan to use Clouds/other abilities in order to supplement melee damage.

[DreadArtemis]

My str build would have 47 attack bonus with caster level 30, Int build would have 41 attack bonus with 30 caster level. Damage would be the same, but I would prefer to have all those extra skills. so a 41 (with greater heroism factored in) would at least be able to do some damage and such?

[Steve]

You could always draw up the build using the www.nwn2db.com builder, and share the build publicly, so that it is much easier to calculate the result you'll see for BGTSCC.