I saw that in creating a Paladin you can pick just about any God. Even neutral or Evil ones. I understand lawfulness in alignment being important to a Paladin. But how do you play a Lawful Good version of a Diety who is say neutral or evil.
How would said diety have this champion if his alignment will cause him to not to further that deities goals.
Also I did tried to search this. On the mobile version didn’t see any recent posts on it. So if been asked recently. I apologize in advance.
Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
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Re: Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
I just checked this in game, and as a paladin, the only gods listed when picking Paladin are Lawful Neutral, Lawful Good, or Neutral Good (Sune being the only exception to this currently, being Chaotic Good).
The issue of alignment is complicated, and varies from person to person. All the gods that I saw listed could rather easily have their dogmas worked with incorporating Lawful aspects for the NG dieties, and Good aspects for the LN ones. Personally, I view Lawful as less strict than some people, less "I have to obey the laws" more, "I'm someone who likes things being orderly" so there isn't really a big issue with dieties being 1 step away from LG, imo.
The issue of alignment is complicated, and varies from person to person. All the gods that I saw listed could rather easily have their dogmas worked with incorporating Lawful aspects for the NG dieties, and Good aspects for the LN ones. Personally, I view Lawful as less strict than some people, less "I have to obey the laws" more, "I'm someone who likes things being orderly" so there isn't really a big issue with dieties being 1 step away from LG, imo.
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Re: Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
Ah my bad then. For some reason I thought you could. Disregard then
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Re: Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
Some Deities, if not most also do not have any Paladins.
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Re: Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
I know this has been answered, but I want you to follow it to its logical conclusion, which is the "variant paladins" from unearthed arcana (not supported in FR though).
Note the underlined parts. That'd be inconvenient for some of those who have historically asked for non-LG paladins.Paladin of Tyranny wrote:Code of Conduct: A paladin of tyranny must be of lawful evil
alignment and loses all class abilities if he ever willingly commits
a good act. Additionally, a paladin of tyranny’s code requires that
he respect authority fi gures as long as they have the strength to
rule over the weak, act with discipline (not engaging in random
slaughter, keeping firm control over those beneath his station, and
so forth), help only those who help him maintain or improve his
status, and punish those who challenge authority (unless, of course,
such challengers prove more worthy to hold that authority).
Associates: While he may adventure with characters of any
evil or neutral alignment, a paladin of tyranny will never knowingly
associate with good characters unless it serves his needs,
nor will he continue an association with someone who consistently
offends his moral code. A paladin of tyranny may accept
henchmen and followers of any alignment, but may only accept
cohorts who are lawful evil.
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Re: Allow Paladins to Match the Lawful Form of their deities alignment
To answer the original post:
Neutral Alignment (LN, N, CN) in D&D is directly written to prefer good neighbours over evil ones. That is the reason why the vast majority of neutrally aligned deities work closely with good-aligned ones and less, if at all, with evil ones. Contrary to popular belief, Neutral Alignment isn't an "I don't care" alignment. They, traditionally, act when push comes to shove- but they ignore the most day to day matters of good vs evil.
On evil- You can't have paladins of evil deities on this server. Either you've misread a deity alignment or devs made a goof.
On the "Issue of alignment", the matter is likewise simple. Being Lawful, chaotic, evil or good in alignment doesn't mean you're an exemplar of extreme cosmological forces. Who would have thought! Only creatures that are magical (Dragons, celestials, winter wolves, unicorns etc.) have their alignments set in stone and behave in certain ways due to their magical nature. Mortals, like humans, elves, dwarves and such have a broad range of choices on how they want to behave and, ultimately, their actions determine their alignments. Being a Lawful Neutral human doesn't mean you have to feel SUPER STRONG ABOUT ALL KINDS OF ORDER and rejection of any kind of morality. Nobody is a living robot that lives on pure calculations
The same goes for Lawful Good. Paladins live with a code- an ethos of what it means to be an honourable, good and respectful champion of all that is nice and good-aligned. No lawful person has to adhere to the law established by any ruler. They have to adhere to some kind of code- be it personal or religious- that they will not deviate from unless something big happens or they become disillusioned. It is seeking order in daily life, generally.
Neutral Alignment (LN, N, CN) in D&D is directly written to prefer good neighbours over evil ones. That is the reason why the vast majority of neutrally aligned deities work closely with good-aligned ones and less, if at all, with evil ones. Contrary to popular belief, Neutral Alignment isn't an "I don't care" alignment. They, traditionally, act when push comes to shove- but they ignore the most day to day matters of good vs evil.
On evil- You can't have paladins of evil deities on this server. Either you've misread a deity alignment or devs made a goof.
On the "Issue of alignment", the matter is likewise simple. Being Lawful, chaotic, evil or good in alignment doesn't mean you're an exemplar of extreme cosmological forces. Who would have thought! Only creatures that are magical (Dragons, celestials, winter wolves, unicorns etc.) have their alignments set in stone and behave in certain ways due to their magical nature. Mortals, like humans, elves, dwarves and such have a broad range of choices on how they want to behave and, ultimately, their actions determine their alignments. Being a Lawful Neutral human doesn't mean you have to feel SUPER STRONG ABOUT ALL KINDS OF ORDER and rejection of any kind of morality. Nobody is a living robot that lives on pure calculations

The same goes for Lawful Good. Paladins live with a code- an ethos of what it means to be an honourable, good and respectful champion of all that is nice and good-aligned. No lawful person has to adhere to the law established by any ruler. They have to adhere to some kind of code- be it personal or religious- that they will not deviate from unless something big happens or they become disillusioned. It is seeking order in daily life, generally.
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