Set Trap and Search
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BullDogg27
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Set Trap and Search
So heres my question, What Determines the Difficulty to spot a Trap that a PC Sets, Is it the higher the skill in set trap that makes it more difficult to spot or is there other factors to it
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Re: Set Trap and Search
I think it's hard coded in the one of the TRAP 2DA files.BullDogg27 wrote:So heres my question, What Determines the Difficulty to spot a Trap that a PC Sets, Is it the higher the skill in set trap that makes it more difficult to spot or is there other factors to it
I think also maybe nwn2 wiki has a list of the DC's.
Some web site has it posted.
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Blackman D
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Re: Set Trap and Search
it should be the default DC of whatever trap that you are using PLUS the set trap skill of the user
found that one out from one of my epic assassin buddies, epic assassins love using traps
havent really talked to one that doesnt do it
found that one out from one of my epic assassin buddies, epic assassins love using traps
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Blackman D
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Re: Set Trap and Search
found the table and tested it in game, its the base DC + set skill + d20 roll
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Set_trap#Notes
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Set_trap#Notes
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Re: Set Trap and Search
That link is on the NWN1 wiki... are those formulas carried over into NWN2? I assume since you said you tested it that is the case.Blackman D wrote:found the table and tested it in game, its the base DC + set skill + d20 roll
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Set_trap#Notes
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BullDogg27
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Re: Set Trap and Search
so the difficulty to see a trap that has been set, is determined by the
Traps DC + Set trap Skill +d20. VS there Search Skill +d20..
just to put things into perspective
lets say
Deadly Tanlgle trap DC35 + 20 Set Trap +d20 roll = potential 75 VS 20 Search Skill +d20 roll = potential 40.
Maybe i am not reading this right but this doesnt make sense to me,
Or is it, Traps DC + Skill VS Search Skill +d20 roll to spot a trap
Traps DC + Set trap Skill +d20. VS there Search Skill +d20..
just to put things into perspective
lets say
Deadly Tanlgle trap DC35 + 20 Set Trap +d20 roll = potential 75 VS 20 Search Skill +d20 roll = potential 40.
Maybe i am not reading this right but this doesnt make sense to me,
Or is it, Traps DC + Skill VS Search Skill +d20 roll to spot a trap
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Connick T. Steel Retired
Khulger Shieldbreaker, Brother of of Thulger Shield Breaker
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muffinFBSL
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Re: Set Trap and Search
Is this reserved for staff member replies? Well, anyway. No d20 is made for the setter's DC. Therefore, the check is:
Trap DC + Set Trap Skill vs. Search Skill + d20
Otherwise, there are skewed ratios. Ideally the check is fair between the setter and the spotter.
Trap DC + Set Trap Skill vs. Search Skill + d20
Otherwise, there are skewed ratios. Ideally the check is fair between the setter and the spotter.
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Re: Set Trap and Search
Tangle, Deadly
Set DC: 30
Detect DC 18 + skill
Disarm DC 31 + skill
(from the table on that link)
so for spotting assuming you have 20 ranks like you said in set trap and search it would be
20 search + d20 = max 40 vs. 18 + 20 set + d20 = max 58 (impossible to see)
then the disarm (again with 20 ranks)
20 disarm + d20 = max 40 vs. 31 + 20 set + d20 = 71 DC (impossible)
when i tested it in game i used average sonic traps (base 22 disable) and my hin has a 14 set and rolled a 19 to lay the trap, then a had a buddy try to disarm it and tell me what the DC was and it was 55 (22+14+19)
so yes in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing traps can be really dangerous
hope that helps
Set DC: 30
Detect DC 18 + skill
Disarm DC 31 + skill
(from the table on that link)
so for spotting assuming you have 20 ranks like you said in set trap and search it would be
20 search + d20 = max 40 vs. 18 + 20 set + d20 = max 58 (impossible to see)
then the disarm (again with 20 ranks)
20 disarm + d20 = max 40 vs. 31 + 20 set + d20 = 71 DC (impossible)
when i tested it in game i used average sonic traps (base 22 disable) and my hin has a 14 set and rolled a 19 to lay the trap, then a had a buddy try to disarm it and tell me what the DC was and it was 55 (22+14+19)
so yes in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing traps can be really dangerous
hope that helps
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Re: Set Trap and Search
Depends on the topic, but generally most useful replies will find their way through. Especially if the question is about a formula like this.muffinFBSL wrote:Is this reserved for staff member replies?
If it falls more along the lines of a ruling a DM needs to make, then leave that to the staff.