Thids wrote:And I am surprised how you can, even after I have pointed out all the flaws to you, be sore about rejection. Especially when rejection is the only thing that makes sense IC.
If I was sore about rejection from you or any other Player, why would I continue to invite you, both IC and OOC, into new collaborative RP?
Why so aggressive? Looking for an outlet?
Thids wrote:Your character in the Zhentarim was not a victim of "OOC skype clique", he was the victim of his extremely low activity and little actual effort put into the guild. No matter what you believe. You can keep your apologies, because that is no apology whatsoever. And I'm not looking for one either. Despite what you may think, I am able to keep a clear mind and stay objective when looking at your RP ideas. I simply do not like them. Zhentarim being a clique? Are you serious? Wolfshear and I spend majority of our playtime out and about, roleplaying with anyone and everyone we stumble upon.
So here you are again placing blame on another, choosing instead to offer any assistance, any help, any guidance. In your infinite wisdom and expertise in deconstructing ideas in order point out their flaws, do you ever take the position of being constructive, or helpful? Or is it simply that you give out your idea of what works, overriding any other idea, instead of working together to improve it?
If you do not like my RP ideas, for evil-minded RP, that is one thing. But are you truly the kind of Person that, when after you lodge blame and complaint on another, and that person apologizes, you choose to continue to shit on them, and attempt to call out all their RP as the same? Is that really your goal, Thids?
Thids wrote:If you think your characters ideas are rejected because of some OOC grudge or something, by all means, feel free to contact Fzoul. I'm certain he eagerly awaits fanmail from random people in the Western Heartlands.
Did I say this? Can you not see often you mix up IC and OOC issues? So now you equate bad ideas with random people, and how neither have any merit, any place, on BGTSCC. Which is kinda funny because the whole time I have presented to you ideas both IC and OOC, they were all about building up a structure, creating something new. You neither come with aid nor understanding, instead, judgement and disregard. Should I consider this reaction on your part, a direct result of your self-stated near burnout on this Server?
Thids wrote:Oh and to point something out, The Zhentarim is very open to any RP approaches from the players. In fact we look forward to them, and to the RP. Your attempts at trying to skew this image as if we are some sort of elitists who reject ideas and opportunities based on OOC crap are in vain. Plenty of people can confirm that it's simply not true. You can continue to try and be a subtle bully about all this OOCly, or you can accept the simple fact that people dislike your idea because it is not a good one.
You can dislike my idea as much as you want, as a Player. And of course, your Toon can also have their own IC rejections...but which one is it, really? It continues to seem to me you are not separating the two.
In addition, attempting to skew my image as an "subtle bully" is an attempt to label me as something that benefits you, somehow. I think it makes you feel better, or, gives you reason to be so aggressive against me personally because I'm the bully, and you're just fighting back. Lol.
I would accept the simple fact that my idea(s) have no merit, if others besides yourself, actually thought that. But since
I do have other people that are willing to establish some collaborative RP through helping build up some of these ideas, so that they are "owned" by all the participants, I can easily dismiss your false labeling.