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Desmodu Hellscreamer, and my actions as of Late.

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I would, at this time, like to express my deepest apologies to anybody, at any time, that I may have offended during my time on the server Roleplaying Desmodu Hellscreamer. But before you judge me too harshly for my actions, I would like to make a few things known.

I am a comic book writer. I will not give my name, obviously, for I value my privacy.
My writing...tends to be very Dystopian. And my views tend to be very much those of a "Haughy intellectual."

Desmodu is a character that I am using to truly try and get inside of the mind of a complete Anarchist, and a COMPLETE Sociopath. Very much a Joker-like Character.

This character, however, is a Hero instead of a Villain. Imagine if Joker..and Batman...were the SAME PERSON.

And yes, he is Schizophrenic. As all bloody Hell.

And, I won't lie, I project a lot of myself onto Desmodu because I, as a human being, suffer from severe depression, Anxiety, and probably a BIT of Schizophrenia. The thing is that my own experiences of such I do with them what any good Comedian does:

...I turn them into Material.

Life and Pain, they are the best teachers, right? And if you're too stupid to learn a lesson from Pain, well, you're too stupid to learn anything.

Some of the things he says and does are incredibly rude, crude, and socially unacceptable. And I want to let everybody know: I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

Desmodu is my attempts to get inside of a character that is so rude, so vulgar, thinks only of himself, has a complete hatred for Government, Religion, Civilization in general, that he's a complete and utter Nihilist and the Epitome of Narcicissm in the fact that he does, in fact, believe himself to be his own God...and that nobody controls his fate but him.

He holds complete and utter hatred and contempt for Mankind, seeing them as Stupid, inadequate creatures so busy hating each other that they'll never accomplish anything.

Let me tell you all a little bit about myself, and perhaps this may give you all a reason to understand why I like to get a rise out of people.

I"m a also a real-life comedian. I am a very staunch libertarian. My comedy, as such, reflects that.

The problem with a Progressive Thinking Libertarian comedian...is that we rub a LOT of people the wrong way. The thing is, rubbing them the wrong way ...let's us know that our Comedy is doing exactly what we want it to. Making ourselves HEARD. And pissing off people who disagree with us or find us offensive. :P

The Comic Book I am writing, which I will not go into personal details here because it's still very much in the "Writing" phase is set in a VERY Dystopian Future with a Totalitarian Government.

The Protagonist is a man who has become so disillusioned by his government, religion, and society in general that he has gone both insane and schizophrenic trying to make sense of it all.

The best way to describe Desmodu as a character is that he is both Batman AND Joker. Thor AND Loki.

Like Thor: He's heavily armored, as boisterious as the Wind itself, and yearns to protect mankind.

But he is also like Loki. He holds contempt for them. He sees them wallowing in their own stupidity and takes no shortage of pleasure out of pranking them and watching them suffer.

The thing is: Because he himself has suffered so much pain, he has learned, THE HARD WAY, that Pain and Suffering make people strong.

And he sees that, just like a Mother Wolf who has to, sometimes, watch her children go hungry a few nights until they learn to hunt for themselves....that Humanity will only survive when they learn to fend for themselves. Without Gods. Without Government. Without Borders.

He both Loves and Hates Man. He sees their potential...but mocks them for their stupidity.
He looks down upon them. But also realizes that looking down upon someone helps to give one a wider perspective.

He sees all of their flaws. But then he sympathizes with them because he realizes their flaws are so similar to his own.

Anyways: Just wanted to clear this up.

I know that some of the jokes I make offend people.

And I want to say: I'm sorry.

Desmodu is a gigantic, Roller-coaster of a Ride that I use as a means, as a writer, to get inside of the head of a Man who is the most LITERAL extreme of "Anarchist."

And maybe, just maybe, use him as a way so that we can all laugh about it.

I just wanted to post this. As a personal apology to any member of the BGTSCC "Theatre." Either the "Cast", the players...or the "Crew Member" the DM team...that I have offended, in any way.

I see this server, this character, as a means of testing this character...on an Audience.
You, the BGTSCC cast and crew...YOU are my "Test Audience."

And I have listened to your Feedback.

I have listened to your criticisms.

But I also could not TELL ANYBODY what I was doing.

You were my lab rats for this character. Because I needed to KNOW how the "Real World", even a Fantasy one, would react to him. Baldur's Gate, this server, and it's people have been, effectively, my "Clinical Trials" for this character so that I can begin writing his story.

And I want to simultaneously Thank all of the people who have given me positive insight.

And I want to simultaneously APOLOGIZE to any and all people on this server that I may have ever offended.

It was not my intention, in the slightest, to actually hurt anybody.

..but I NEEDED to offend people. Because I needed to study and push to the VERY EDGE what people would find OFFENSIVE...

...and yet still stay within the Rules so that I was not banned.

The reason that so many of the characters I play on this server had such similar personalities and mannerisms are that, quite literally..

...this character has undergone revisions. Many times.

First, he was Geist von Mitternacht. The Anarch Rogue, who was a master of tactical Guerilla Warfare.

Then, he was Sarkhan Dragonspeaker. A Druid of Malar who hated mankind so much that he would rather just Devour them than put up with them.

Then he became Desmodu. The outspoken, Boisterous Storm-Singer who believes in the power of Words above all other things, and DEMANDS to be heard.

All different versions of the SAME character that I was writing for the Comic I am currently writing. A book that, for me, is two years in the making.

This story that I am writing, I consider it my Magnum Opus as a writer.
And I want to thank you all for helping me do it. Even if you didn't realize that you were.

I hope, for the love of God, that this helps to clear this all up, and why I act and roleplay the way that I do.

Thank you for reading.

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Re: Desmodu Hellscreamer, and my actions as of Late.

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Well since you brought it up!
I have only seen Geist and Desmodu in action, not the other one, so I will only comment on those two.
I liked them both but I thought Desmodu was a bit more obnoxious then Geist. The magic bong, was cool, but if over used as a prop it became a bit too Cheech and Chong- especially for a fantasy setting.

Disclaimer: no actual drugs were officially smoked during any RP interactions.

I could not tell if he was good or evil which was neat as it made him a bit sinister. I knew he was shady and my first guess was he was evil. But he he never really did anything evil as far as I could tell which made him seem more of a scoundrel or anti hero type. His hat reminded me of the voodoo priest Baron Samdi type style.
When he started acting crazy and over the top I assumed you were RPing him as being under the influence.
You might want to be able to clarify the difference between his behavior before and after bong use. If you want him to be of Joker style then you need to make it clear that he does not need the magic bong to make him a wild card, its just more fun with it. You dont want people to assume he is just tripping balls all the time. Unless you want him to be more of a junky burn out type wild card...I could see that working well.

I really liked the character but I did not really know his motives so I can not add any more than that.

I remember getting a huge kick out of Geist. I remember a few conversations where another player was being a bit of a pretentious know it all and Geist cleverly cut him down to size...Geist was Brazenly honest about his nature and a good debater of morality. I only really saw him RP around the campfire but I could see you painting yourself in a corner with him a bit, especially on this server where his honesty could leave him sort of ostracized from the goodly my poop dont stink players.

I think if you added Geists biting wit to Desmodu, you would have a top teir character. But Desmodu has room to develop more which I would say is very important.

I for one do not need any apologies from you, so you can keep all that.
I do expect my lab rat, royalty cheque, for being part of your creative experiment.

Yeah so there. Keep it up.
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I guess the main concerns of others were not about Desmodu being harsh, or obnoxious, or whatever, but about those endless postmodern references and our-days rhetorics Desmodu uses which could be a bit immersion breaking. In my eyes, Desmodu is a positive and very kind character, and I'll say he's chaotic good from what I see. Yes, I'm aware he's evil in character sheet, but ironically enough, Desmodu shows much better good-aligned RP than some of the local "goodies".

I myself really love interracting with Desmodu and, hells, I'm envious of your storytelling skills sometimes and I understand that I'll likely never be as good at RP as you are -_-
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What I read here is: "I broke all your immersions for years at this point, for entirely selfish reasons with absolutely no concern over your own enjoyment. Heh, sorry. But hear me out! This book that I'm writing is going to be amaaaaaaaaazing", followed by 15 paragraphs about your book and its main character.

It's not even about liking or not liking a character/player. I do not need to like you, I do not need to enjoy your character concepts. That is completely irrelevant in this matter. What I need you to do is stick within these simple setting rules we all agreed to play within when we logged into BG: D&D, Forgotten Realms.
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Concur on the all-too frequent breaking of the 4th wall, nevertheless I did enjoy most of the limited banter we had.

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I have no problem with you or your characters. Edgy RP is fine. Heinrich enjoyed desmodus comedy show in fact but he didn't understand many of the jokes. I think breaking the 4th wall and refferencing ooc knowledge works better in movies, comics, books etc but not in cooperative story building via nwn2. I hope you continue to play your characters regardless as they are fairly unique.
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As one of the people that may have actually argued to leave your character in a ditch as a corpse (Back with the Undead Army, if you recall that), I actually rarely got overly annoyed by the character itself as well. It was more the anachronisms that always blew me out of the experience and made me a bit iffy on the character in total. Otherwise, it was always a pleasure to see you get comeuppance for the general character attitude in events or dialogue, though.
Also, I did like the Sarkhan-period, at least as little as I experienced.

I am still mad I never got any coffee from him, though.
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I found both of them hilarious actually. I think you'd be a great stand up comic. However some of the material as the others said doesn't belong in this setting which kind of threw me off so I figured you were just messing around and not really RPing an actual setting appropriate character... so I couldn't take him seriously as it were in any situation. However, there were no offences what so ever! :)
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KOPOJIbPAKOB wrote:I guess the main concerns of others were not about Desmodu being harsh, or obnoxious, or whatever, but about those endless postmodern references and our-days rhetorics Desmodu uses which could be a bit immersion breaking.
As soon as I saw this topic I felt compelled to say something about the already-mentioned propensity of the player, and not just the character, for breaking of the 4th wall. I can still remember a few years ago, back when I used to actually engage in RP, literally cringing when one of KIAB's characters set up a stall outside the FAI to sell chimichangas. Needless to say, it was one of the many instances where I had to remove myself from the area, and interacting with any RP around the players character, for the simple reason that I felt the modern day references were wholly damaging to the setting, and negated any possibility of immersion. This has been a long time habit of the player, and I've always felt it detracted(greatly) from their potential for RP.

To the OP: That being said, I've been around long enough to see a fair share of your characters and RP, and I can safely say that were it not for this propensity for(or inability to refrain from, perhaps) breaking the 4th wall, I sincerely doubt that many criticisms would be levied against your capacity to story-tell, or ability to roleplay.
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No offense taken and no apologize needed.
After long hours of tiring fights/work, i prefer to go to a campfire and what do i see?

a)3 person talk to each other, AFK, or simply not interacting that much which you can see everyday.

b)your character interacts with every other new or old players which we cant expect what would come out from the characters mouth be it jokes or weird funny things.

i'd go for b choice since its releasing stress after long days work, its fun and laugh at the jokes, and more random interactions rather than waiting 5 minutes for 1 response from AFK non interacting characters. :violin:
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Honestly , as much as you've certainly broken the 4th wall many times , i never cared too much , i think your characters brought something good to the server in terms of presence at least , even if in the form of a burden sometimes :D
Great that you also obtained feedback and data for your book by that , the server is a boring chore already , i'm pretty sure you ruined nothing ;)
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You seem like a nice guy/player, but I find Desmodu to be totally immersion breaking. He debates gods while ignoring the facts laid out in the setting, the bongs and stuff are also super immersion breaking for me, just looks like a pothead bringing their habit into a fantasy world.

I do not enjoy Desmodu's RP, but that doesn't mean I can't like the player behind them. I've met plenty of characters I didn't like, but liked their players just fine.

If you are worried about upsetting people, honestly I just suggest you read up on more of the FR lore, I dont think anyone finds your character offensive, so much as just extremely lore and immersion breaking. For my part, I just avoid RPing with your characters because of the aforementioned reasons, it just pulls me right out of the setting personally.

Just my 2 cents.
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I mean, as someone who's EXTREMELY anti drug IRL. I don't find Desmodu to be that in your face. He comes across as a comedic Character sometimes, but that's not a bad thing.

Though, I'm mildly surprised he didn't go the easy route, Given Tolkien made sure smoking pipes and pipeweed got entrenched in to fantasy.

As far as Immersion breaking, I cant exactly say.
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Honest point of view, since you seem to be asking for it?
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I think the 4th wall breaking (edgy dedp00l clone?) is the biggest thing hampering Desmodu as a character. Other than that, he is reasonably entertaining. But, if reasonably entertaining is 3 points, then the 4th wall breaking is -20 points. Net, you end up with a character that is just irritating to be around OOCly. Crazy is ok, but I think Teris did that far better. 4th wall breaking is the microwave dinner of insanity RP, anyone can do it and it comes off as a lack of talent or desperation to be edgy. Especially when you have to drop to OOC mid RP. It kills the immersion and doesn't really add anything.
Best thing for you to do imo is to drop it. Your RP would improve by a long-shot. As it stands, my characters usually just think of Desmodu the town fool and leave it as that. OOCly, I kinda just avoid Desmodu as much as I can.

I just can't find a way to take him seriously from an IC or OOC level (and I've tried, believe you me!). He seems like an OOC self-insert of the worst kind to me.
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