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Re: Loot Rebalance

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yyj wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:07 pm

Any chances of increasing chest range? Myabe +/-2 levels?

Though Ideally not gonna lie, it would be way better for epic area chest to be lootable from level 21 to 30. For the sake of variety.
Okay, this just thinking in relation to nothing concrete, but if a CR 30 Area is for a Group of 4-5 PCs of Level 30, then is it fair to say a CR 26 (30 - 4 group members) Area would be appropriate for a soloing Level 30, in terms of "better" or "great" or appropriate loot from the Rebalancing? Yes, that would make diminishing returns on CR 25 and lower Areas, should a Level 30 open chests in those descending Areas.

Is this about right, or fair, or how it "should" be?

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Re: Loot Rebalance

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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:21 pm
yyj wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:07 pm

Any chances of increasing chest range? Myabe +/-2 levels?

Though Ideally not gonna lie, it would be way better for epic area chest to be lootable from level 21 to 30. For the sake of variety.
Okay, this just thinking in relation to nothing concrete, but if a CR 30 Area is for a Group of 4-5 PCs of Level 30, then is it fair to say a CR 26 (30 - 4 group members) Area would be appropriate for a soloing Level 30, in terms of "better" or "great" or appropriate loot from the Rebalancing? Yes, that would make diminishing returns on CR 25 and lower Areas, should a Level 30 open chests in those descending Areas.

Is this about right, or fair, or how it "should" be?
If we had areas for CR 21, 22, 23, etc. Until 30, this wouldn't be necessary but let's get real, until server split, it's just not feasible.

So I am proposing this so that there aren't any dead loot levels.
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Re: Loot Rebalance

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2020/12/23—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 4th run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Elemental drop:
Potion of Clarivoyance (10)

Chest:
63gp
Scroll of Righteous Might
Scroll of Circle of Death

Black Pudding Uldur drop:
112gp

Beholder Cave chest:
40gp
Fire Agate

Fire Giant drop:
Helmut: Deflection +1
Potion fo Detect Undead
286gp

Fire Giant drop:
Lore of the Master Alchemist book
Light Crossbow +1 AB; critical 1d8

Chest:
Cloak: Discipline -4; CON +1; Disable Device +2
Tower Shield: 20% weight; Only Usable by Evil

Chest (crash with broken item sound):
35gp
Broken Item

Chest:
1098gp

Chest:
57gp
Anagrys Mindmaze Wizard Level spells 2 + 3, INT +2, Mind Saves +4


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5219gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Bolts (99) Slashing 2

Chest:
32gp
Chain Shirt +2

Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Stoneskin

Chest:
54gp
Garnet
Heavy Shield +3

Chest:
42gp
Assassin’s Messenger AC+2, Reflex +1, H/MS +2

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Chain Shirt Spirit Shaman spell level 1
INT+2

Stone Giant Elder drop:
Katana DEX +1

Fire Giant Mage (yellow name) drop:
Pit Fiend Ichor
Scroll of Creeping Cold

Chest:
45gp
Scroll of Summon creature VI


I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.

Not the best return out of 4 runs.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:57 pm 2020/12/16—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 3rd run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Potion of : Herb, Garlic

Gr. Fire Elemental Drop:
Darksteel Chainmail plain

Chest:
690gp

Chest:
62gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Chest:
29gp
Garnet
Scroll: Remove Curse
Fire Opal (appropriate!)

Black Pudding drop:
Helmet: Craft Trap +1

Beholder (in cave) drop:
196gp
Gauntlet: AB+2, EB +1, On Hit: Stun DC=14 50% / 2 rounds

Black Pudding, Elder drop”
87gp
Tower Shield: AC +4, Spell Failure +10%
Shuriken: AB +3, DMG Bonus Electrical 2, EB +1

Beholder Cave Chest:
1112gp

Chest:
1280gp
Arrow of Greater Dispelling

Chest:
41gp
Fire Agate

Chest:
900gp


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5194gp
Banded Mail: SR 16, 60% weight reduction
Heavy Shield +4

General's Lair Chest:
30gp
Bullet of Screaming

General's Lair Chest:
51gp
Potion of Shield

General's Lair Chest:
884gp

General's Lair Chest:
39gp
Scroll of Flame Arrow (appropriate!)
Silver Necklace
Chainmail +1 AC


As one can see from this 3rd run, and the previous 2 runs, chests are not providing me with anything great, or even valuable except as trash sells for coin. The 3rd run finally dropped some +4 items (2), both those were from the Boss and a mob (which haven't been rebalanced).

So for me, in this 3rd run and third week since the Rebalance, I am not seeing better items at all.

PS— this isn't the only toon I've played in these last 3 weeks either. And on my other toons, I haven't seen any saveable "great" items, either. Mostly just trash sells for coin. Which is boring as (#2), and was similar to how the loot experience was for me BEFORE the Loot Rebalance. Sorry guys and gals, I'm just not seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing!

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Steve wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:59 pm 2020/12/08—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 2nd run after Loot Rebalance

Chest:
54 gp
Potion of Ghostly Visage

Chest:
49 gp
Scroll of Slay Living
Alexandrite gem

Chest Outside Beholder Cave:
34 gp
Gold Necklace

Beholder Cave Chest:
49 gp
Potion of Bear’s Endurance Greater
Potion of Barksin

Yellow Named Fire Giant drop:
BURNING STICK!!! Haha funny devs.

Chest (got a crunch alert!):
Broken Item
36 gp
Potions of Bears Endurance
Grenade: Alchemists fire


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
Quarterstaff Paladin 0 Level bonus spell; Fortitude -2
Shurikens +1
Scroll of Camouflage
5000gp

Chest:
Rapier +1
34 gp

Chest:
56 gp
Silver Necklace

Chest (got a crunch alert!)
Broken Item
54 gp
Crossbow, Light: EB +1, Mighty +3, Hide +1

Chest:
1547 gp

Stone Giants’ Chest:
46 gp
Garnet

Chest (got a crunch alert):
240 gp

Fire Giant drop (I know this doesn’t count, but…):
Clothes: CHA +1; Spell Immunity: Harm


The 2nd run was WORSE than my 1st run (in spoiler). And I am honest here, not omitting anything or skewing numbers. :naughty:


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Steve wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:02 pm 2020/11/30—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 1st run after Loot Rebalance

Chest:
Scroll: Fireball
Gold Piece: 726

Chest:
Light Shield +1
Gold: 69

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
166gp

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Kukri: Massive Cries 2d6; Mithral; Spell Immunity: Grease; 60% weight reduction
Pit Fiend Ichor (poison): DC 27
Magic Quarterstaff: Sorcerer spell Level 1; Dmg Bonus Magical 1; EB +1
Burning Stick!!!

Chest:
53 gp
Scroll: Invisibility Purge

Pudding drop:
Scale Mail: AC +4; Reduced Saving Throws: Positive Energy -2; SR 18

Pudding drop:
Boots AC dodge +1

Beholder’s cave chest outside
:
63gp
Potion of Spider Skin
Blade Barrier
Create Undead

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
34gp
Potion of Owl’s Wisdom

Beholder drop:
Quarterstaff: 20m Purple Light; Only Usable by Evil

Chest:
33gp
Potion of Vigorous Cycle

Chest:
Scimiar AB +2

Fire Giant (yellow name) drop
Katana +2 EB; Cold Iron

Chest:
882gp
Silver Ring
Magic Wand: Wand of the Heavens (lesser)

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
222gp

Stone Giant Camp Chest:
54gp
Bolt of Fire (232) Fire 1d6
Potion of Righteous Might


Fire Giant General’s Cave


Gr. Fire Elemental (Yellow Name):
Ring +1 Deflection; HP +6
Padded Armor: AC Bonus +1; Spell Immunity: Mass Charm Monster
180 gp

Rat: Mandarin Garnet

Fire Giant General:
5000gp
Studded Leather Armor +1

General's Cave Chest:
1100gp

General's Cave Chest:
36gp
Gold Ring

General's Cave Chest:

60gp
Scroll: Prismatic Spray

General's Cave Chest:
Banded Mail (plain)
Heavy Crossbow (plain)

All I can say is... :think:

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Re: Loot Rebalance

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2020/12/24—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 5th run after Loot Rebalance


Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Crossbow bolts mundane
Tower Shield - Open Lock +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity: Slow

Chest:
43gp
Cloak - +3 Deflection, 10% Acid Immunity, 10% Fire Immunity
Strong Frost Trap

Chest:
46gp
Scroll of Summon Creature VI

Chest:
691gp

Chest:
698gp

Beholder (yellow name) drop:
209gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
57gp
Copper Necklace
Scroll of Finger of Death

Elder Pudding drop:
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes EB +1, Mass cries 8
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity Hammer of the Gods, SR 14

Chest (in Beholder’s Cave):
26gp
Purple Book of Dambrath History

Chest:
Longbow - EB+3

Chest:
53gp
Scroll of Banishment



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Gr. Fire Elemental (yellow name) drop:
Deadly Holy Trap Kit
Silver Morningstar - Acid 10% Immunity, Alch. Silver
Quarterstaff - HP +3
Fire Bomb (straight out the arsenal!!!!)
Boots - CHA+1
Darksteel Chainmail = Acid 5/, 60% weight


Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes - Vamp region +1

Chest (near throne):
43gp
Bone Wand

Chest:
44gp
Scroll of Phantom Bear

Chest:
902gp
Full plate AC +2
Kukri EB+1

Chest:
705gp
Boots of Speed - Haste (10) 3/day

Rat drop:
22gp

Fire Giant (yellow name) drop:
203gp
Kukri AB+1

Stone Giant’s Camp Chest:
916gp

Fire giant (yellow name) drop:
178gp
Arrows - Vamp region +1

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
180gp

So, I got back to seeing 8 chests in the exterior of Graypeaks. Unfortunately, even less rewarding of a run than the previous runs, in terms of Items, though plenty of gold...which is still not what I'm loot-runnig for!! Coal for Christmas!!! lol.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:32 pm 2020/12/23—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 4th run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Elemental drop:
Potion of Clarivoyance (10)

Chest:
63gp
Scroll of Righteous Might
Scroll of Circle of Death

Black Pudding Uldur drop:
112gp

Beholder Cave chest:
40gp
Fire Agate

Fire Giant drop:
Helmut: Deflection +1
Potion fo Detect Undead
286gp

Fire Giant drop:
Lore of the Master Alchemist book
Light Crossbow +1 AB; critical 1d8

Chest:
Cloak: Discipline -4; CON +1; Disable Device +2
Tower Shield: 20% weight; Only Usable by Evil

Chest (crash with broken item sound):
35gp
Broken Item

Chest:
1098gp

Chest:
57gp
Anagrys Mindmaze Wizard Level spells 2 + 3, INT +2, Mind Saves +4


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5219gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Bolts (99) Slashing 2

Chest:
32gp
Chain Shirt +2

Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Stoneskin

Chest:
54gp
Garnet
Heavy Shield +3

Chest:
42gp
Assassin’s Messenger AC+2, Reflex +1, H/MS +2

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Chain Shirt Spirit Shaman spell level 1
INT+2

Stone Giant Elder drop:
Katana DEX +1

Fire Giant Mage (yellow name) drop:
Pit Fiend Ichor
Scroll of Creeping Cold

Chest:
45gp
Scroll of Summon creature VI


I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.

Not the best return out of 4 runs.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:57 pm 2020/12/16—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 3rd run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Potion of : Herb, Garlic

Gr. Fire Elemental Drop:
Darksteel Chainmail plain

Chest:
690gp

Chest:
62gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Chest:
29gp
Garnet
Scroll: Remove Curse
Fire Opal (appropriate!)

Black Pudding drop:
Helmet: Craft Trap +1

Beholder (in cave) drop:
196gp
Gauntlet: AB+2, EB +1, On Hit: Stun DC=14 50% / 2 rounds

Black Pudding, Elder drop”
87gp
Tower Shield: AC +4, Spell Failure +10%
Shuriken: AB +3, DMG Bonus Electrical 2, EB +1

Beholder Cave Chest:
1112gp

Chest:
1280gp
Arrow of Greater Dispelling

Chest:
41gp
Fire Agate

Chest:
900gp


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5194gp
Banded Mail: SR 16, 60% weight reduction
Heavy Shield +4

General's Lair Chest:
30gp
Bullet of Screaming

General's Lair Chest:
51gp
Potion of Shield

General's Lair Chest:
884gp

General's Lair Chest:
39gp
Scroll of Flame Arrow (appropriate!)
Silver Necklace
Chainmail +1 AC


As one can see from this 3rd run, and the previous 2 runs, chests are not providing me with anything great, or even valuable except as trash sells for coin. The 3rd run finally dropped some +4 items (2), both those were from the Boss and a mob (which haven't been rebalanced).

So for me, in this 3rd run and third week since the Rebalance, I am not seeing better items at all.

PS— this isn't the only toon I've played in these last 3 weeks either. And on my other toons, I haven't seen any saveable "great" items, either. Mostly just trash sells for coin. Which is boring as (#2), and was similar to how the loot experience was for me BEFORE the Loot Rebalance. Sorry guys and gals, I'm just not seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing!

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Steve wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:59 pm 2020/12/08—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 2nd run after Loot Rebalance

Chest:
54 gp
Potion of Ghostly Visage

Chest:
49 gp
Scroll of Slay Living
Alexandrite gem

Chest Outside Beholder Cave:
34 gp
Gold Necklace

Beholder Cave Chest:
49 gp
Potion of Bear’s Endurance Greater
Potion of Barksin

Yellow Named Fire Giant drop:
BURNING STICK!!! Haha funny devs.

Chest (got a crunch alert!):
Broken Item
36 gp
Potions of Bears Endurance
Grenade: Alchemists fire


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
Quarterstaff Paladin 0 Level bonus spell; Fortitude -2
Shurikens +1
Scroll of Camouflage
5000gp

Chest:
Rapier +1
34 gp

Chest:
56 gp
Silver Necklace

Chest (got a crunch alert!)
Broken Item
54 gp
Crossbow, Light: EB +1, Mighty +3, Hide +1

Chest:
1547 gp

Stone Giants’ Chest:
46 gp
Garnet

Chest (got a crunch alert):
240 gp

Fire Giant drop (I know this doesn’t count, but…):
Clothes: CHA +1; Spell Immunity: Harm


The 2nd run was WORSE than my 1st run (in spoiler). And I am honest here, not omitting anything or skewing numbers. :naughty:


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Re: Loot Rebalance

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2020/12/27—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 6th run after Loot Rebalance


Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Negative Energy Blast

Chest:
35gp
Half plate (mundane)

Chest:
738gp
Warriors Plate - AC +3, Bonus HP +15, STR +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Scroll of Rage
Average Electrical Trap
Potion of Cats Grace
Ring of Immunity to Lesser Dispel

Black Pudding Elder drop:
155gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
142gp
Padded Armor - Immunity to Lightning Bolt

Beholder Drop:
Torch

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
37gp
Potion of Battletide

Chest:
45gp
Uthgar’s Legacy book

Fire Giant drop:
340gp

Chest:
208gp

Chest:
56gp
Potion of Blurry Eyes
Scroll of Invisibility
Potion of Elemental Shield


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General drop:
5124gp
Healer’s Kit +1
Potion of Lesser Spell Mantle
Improved Tanglefoot Bag
Helmet - Cold 10% Immunity, Will saves +1
Potion of Body of the Sun

Fire Giant General’s chest:
1287gp

Chest:
1935gp
Katana EB+2

Chest:
1332gp

Chest:
57gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Stone Giant drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell slot Cleric Level 1, Will +1, Immunity Finger of Death

Stone Giant drop:
Tanglefoot Bag (nice…lol)

Stone Giant’s Chest:

42gp
Potion of Elemental Shield

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
100gp


Diminishing returns. Best item is the Warriors Plate, however not Epic, and not useful to my PC.




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Steve wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:02 pm 2020/12/24—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 5th run after Loot Rebalance


Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Crossbow bolts mundane
Tower Shield - Open Lock +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity: Slow

Chest:
43gp
Cloak - +3 Deflection, 10% Acid Immunity, 10% Fire Immunity
Strong Frost Trap

Chest:
46gp
Scroll of Summon Creature VI

Chest:
691gp

Chest:
698gp

Beholder (yellow name) drop:
209gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
57gp
Copper Necklace
Scroll of Finger of Death

Elder Pudding drop:
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes EB +1, Mass cries 8
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity Hammer of the Gods, SR 14

Chest (in Beholder’s Cave):
26gp
Purple Book of Dambrath History

Chest:
Longbow - EB+3

Chest:
53gp
Scroll of Banishment



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Gr. Fire Elemental (yellow name) drop:
Deadly Holy Trap Kit
Silver Morningstar - Acid 10% Immunity, Alch. Silver
Quarterstaff - HP +3
Fire Bomb (straight out the arsenal!!!!)
Boots - CHA+1
Darksteel Chainmail = Acid 5/, 60% weight


Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes - Vamp region +1

Chest (near throne):
43gp
Bone Wand

Chest:
44gp
Scroll of Phantom Bear

Chest:
902gp
Full plate AC +2
Kukri EB+1

Chest:
705gp
Boots of Speed - Haste (10) 3/day

Rat drop:
22gp

Fire Giant (yellow name) drop:
203gp
Kukri AB+1

Stone Giant’s Camp Chest:
916gp

Fire giant (yellow name) drop:
178gp
Arrows - Vamp region +1

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
180gp

So, I got back to seeing 8 chests in the exterior of Graypeaks. Unfortunately, even less rewarding of a run than the previous runs, in terms of Items, though plenty of gold...which is still not what I'm loot-runnig for!! Coal for Christmas!!! lol.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:32 pm 2020/12/23—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 4th run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Elemental drop:
Potion of Clarivoyance (10)

Chest:
63gp
Scroll of Righteous Might
Scroll of Circle of Death

Black Pudding Uldur drop:
112gp

Beholder Cave chest:
40gp
Fire Agate

Fire Giant drop:
Helmut: Deflection +1
Potion fo Detect Undead
286gp

Fire Giant drop:
Lore of the Master Alchemist book
Light Crossbow +1 AB; critical 1d8

Chest:
Cloak: Discipline -4; CON +1; Disable Device +2
Tower Shield: 20% weight; Only Usable by Evil

Chest (crash with broken item sound):
35gp
Broken Item

Chest:
1098gp

Chest:
57gp
Anagrys Mindmaze Wizard Level spells 2 + 3, INT +2, Mind Saves +4


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5219gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Bolts (99) Slashing 2

Chest:
32gp
Chain Shirt +2

Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Stoneskin

Chest:
54gp
Garnet
Heavy Shield +3

Chest:
42gp
Assassin’s Messenger AC+2, Reflex +1, H/MS +2

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Chain Shirt Spirit Shaman spell level 1
INT+2

Stone Giant Elder drop:
Katana DEX +1

Fire Giant Mage (yellow name) drop:
Pit Fiend Ichor
Scroll of Creeping Cold

Chest:
45gp
Scroll of Summon creature VI


I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.

Not the best return out of 4 runs.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:57 pm 2020/12/16—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 3rd run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Potion of : Herb, Garlic

Gr. Fire Elemental Drop:
Darksteel Chainmail plain

Chest:
690gp

Chest:
62gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Chest:
29gp
Garnet
Scroll: Remove Curse
Fire Opal (appropriate!)

Black Pudding drop:
Helmet: Craft Trap +1

Beholder (in cave) drop:
196gp
Gauntlet: AB+2, EB +1, On Hit: Stun DC=14 50% / 2 rounds

Black Pudding, Elder drop”
87gp
Tower Shield: AC +4, Spell Failure +10%
Shuriken: AB +3, DMG Bonus Electrical 2, EB +1

Beholder Cave Chest:
1112gp

Chest:
1280gp
Arrow of Greater Dispelling

Chest:
41gp
Fire Agate

Chest:
900gp


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5194gp
Banded Mail: SR 16, 60% weight reduction
Heavy Shield +4

General's Lair Chest:
30gp
Bullet of Screaming

General's Lair Chest:
51gp
Potion of Shield

General's Lair Chest:
884gp

General's Lair Chest:
39gp
Scroll of Flame Arrow (appropriate!)
Silver Necklace
Chainmail +1 AC


As one can see from this 3rd run, and the previous 2 runs, chests are not providing me with anything great, or even valuable except as trash sells for coin. The 3rd run finally dropped some +4 items (2), both those were from the Boss and a mob (which haven't been rebalanced).

So for me, in this 3rd run and third week since the Rebalance, I am not seeing better items at all.

PS— this isn't the only toon I've played in these last 3 weeks either. And on my other toons, I haven't seen any saveable "great" items, either. Mostly just trash sells for coin. Which is boring as (#2), and was similar to how the loot experience was for me BEFORE the Loot Rebalance. Sorry guys and gals, I'm just not seeing what I'm supposed to be seeing!

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Re: Loot Rebalance

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2020/12/29—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 7th run after Loot Rebalance

Chest:

46gp
Bullets of Screaming - Sonic 1d4, On Hit Silence DC=14 50% / 2 rounds

Chest:
45gp
Light Shield +1

Chest:
38gp
Kukri +1
Fire Agate (lore appropriate!! LOL)

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Scroll of Gemidyans missile
Gauntlet - EB +1, Open Lock +1
Gauntly - AB+1

Chest (outside Beholder Cave):

889gp

Beholder drop:
Healer’s Kit +10

Beholder drop:
259gp

Beholder drop:
Banded Mail mundane

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
887gp

Gr. Fire Giant drop:
289gp

Chest:
1309gp
Scroll of Clairaudience

Chest:
26gp
Potion of Righteous Might



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Clothes - Improved Saving Throws Fear +3
Potion of Lesser Visage of the Diety
Shurikens - Vamp Regen +1

General’s big chest:
30gp
Potion of Protection from Energy
Alexandrite gem

Chest:
38gp
Epic Fire Trap (OMG…technically an epic item cause, you know…THE NAME!)

Chest:
Rapier - 60% of Weight

Chest:
49gp
Scroll of Energy Immunity

Stone Giant’s Chest:
53gp
Potion of Cure Serious Wounds


Not. Getting. Better.


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Steve wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:29 pm 2020/12/27—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 6th run after Loot Rebalance


Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Negative Energy Blast

Chest:
35gp
Half plate (mundane)

Chest:
738gp
Warriors Plate - AC +3, Bonus HP +15, STR +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Scroll of Rage
Average Electrical Trap
Potion of Cats Grace
Ring of Immunity to Lesser Dispel

Black Pudding Elder drop:
155gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
142gp
Padded Armor - Immunity to Lightning Bolt

Beholder Drop:
Torch

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
37gp
Potion of Battletide

Chest:
45gp
Uthgar’s Legacy book

Fire Giant drop:
340gp

Chest:
208gp

Chest:
56gp
Potion of Blurry Eyes
Scroll of Invisibility
Potion of Elemental Shield


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General drop:
5124gp
Healer’s Kit +1
Potion of Lesser Spell Mantle
Improved Tanglefoot Bag
Helmet - Cold 10% Immunity, Will saves +1
Potion of Body of the Sun

Fire Giant General’s chest:
1287gp

Chest:
1935gp
Katana EB+2

Chest:
1332gp

Chest:
57gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Stone Giant drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell slot Cleric Level 1, Will +1, Immunity Finger of Death

Stone Giant drop:
Tanglefoot Bag (nice…lol)

Stone Giant’s Chest:

42gp
Potion of Elemental Shield

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
100gp


Diminishing returns. Best item is the Warriors Plate, however not Epic, and not useful to my PC.




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Steve wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:02 pm 2020/12/24—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 5th run after Loot Rebalance


Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Crossbow bolts mundane
Tower Shield - Open Lock +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity: Slow

Chest:
43gp
Cloak - +3 Deflection, 10% Acid Immunity, 10% Fire Immunity
Strong Frost Trap

Chest:
46gp
Scroll of Summon Creature VI

Chest:
691gp

Chest:
698gp

Beholder (yellow name) drop:
209gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
57gp
Copper Necklace
Scroll of Finger of Death

Elder Pudding drop:
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes EB +1, Mass cries 8
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity Hammer of the Gods, SR 14

Chest (in Beholder’s Cave):
26gp
Purple Book of Dambrath History

Chest:
Longbow - EB+3

Chest:
53gp
Scroll of Banishment



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Gr. Fire Elemental (yellow name) drop:
Deadly Holy Trap Kit
Silver Morningstar - Acid 10% Immunity, Alch. Silver
Quarterstaff - HP +3
Fire Bomb (straight out the arsenal!!!!)
Boots - CHA+1
Darksteel Chainmail = Acid 5/, 60% weight


Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes - Vamp region +1

Chest (near throne):
43gp
Bone Wand

Chest:
44gp
Scroll of Phantom Bear

Chest:
902gp
Full plate AC +2
Kukri EB+1

Chest:
705gp
Boots of Speed - Haste (10) 3/day

Rat drop:
22gp

Fire Giant (yellow name) drop:
203gp
Kukri AB+1

Stone Giant’s Camp Chest:
916gp

Fire giant (yellow name) drop:
178gp
Arrows - Vamp region +1

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
180gp

So, I got back to seeing 8 chests in the exterior of Graypeaks. Unfortunately, even less rewarding of a run than the previous runs, in terms of Items, though plenty of gold...which is still not what I'm loot-runnig for!! Coal for Christmas!!! lol.


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Steve wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:32 pm 2020/12/23—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 4th run after Loot Rebalance

Gr. Elemental drop:
Potion of Clarivoyance (10)

Chest:
63gp
Scroll of Righteous Might
Scroll of Circle of Death

Black Pudding Uldur drop:
112gp

Beholder Cave chest:
40gp
Fire Agate

Fire Giant drop:
Helmut: Deflection +1
Potion fo Detect Undead
286gp

Fire Giant drop:
Lore of the Master Alchemist book
Light Crossbow +1 AB; critical 1d8

Chest:
Cloak: Discipline -4; CON +1; Disable Device +2
Tower Shield: 20% weight; Only Usable by Evil

Chest (crash with broken item sound):
35gp
Broken Item

Chest:
1098gp

Chest:
57gp
Anagrys Mindmaze Wizard Level spells 2 + 3, INT +2, Mind Saves +4


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General:
5219gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Bolts (99) Slashing 2

Chest:
32gp
Chain Shirt +2

Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Stoneskin

Chest:
54gp
Garnet
Heavy Shield +3

Chest:
42gp
Assassin’s Messenger AC+2, Reflex +1, H/MS +2

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Chain Shirt Spirit Shaman spell level 1
INT+2

Stone Giant Elder drop:
Katana DEX +1

Fire Giant Mage (yellow name) drop:
Pit Fiend Ichor
Scroll of Creeping Cold

Chest:
45gp
Scroll of Summon creature VI


I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.

Not the best return out of 4 runs.


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Re: Loot Rebalance

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I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.
Is this supposed to be happening? I Just had the same problem in the Frost Giant Castle, only one chest spawned, excluding the static bag and boss chests.
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Re: Loot Rebalance

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2021/01/05—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 8th run after Loot Rebalance


Chest:

53gp
Longsword +3 EB
Ring - Heirloom of Asenath - CHA +3, Sorcerer Level 2 spell, Concentration +4
Gold Necklace

Chest:

41gp

Chest:
45gp
Silver Necklace

Chest outside Beholder Cave:
1087gp

Beholder drop:
Scroll of Mine Vine (9)

Pudding Elder drop:
Wraith Spider Venom

Pudding Elder drop:
Colossal Spider Venom

Beholder Cave chest:

52gp
Purple Binder on Zhentarim History

Chest:
50gp
Shortbow - EB +3, Mighty +4



Fire Giant General’s Cave—


Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Cloth Armor - AC +1, HP+5
Scroll of Song of Discord

Fire Giant General’s Chest:

45gp
Scroll of Glove of Invulnerability
Dusty Tome

Chest:
49gp
Bracers of Specialization - Deflection AC +3, Parry -2, Spellcraft -2, Enhancement Penalty -1
Padded Armor +4

Chest:
22gp
Scroll of Confusion (5)
Silver Necklace

Chest:
687gp
Scroll of Feeblemind
Scroll of Mass Aid

Spellgaunt yellow name drop:
139gp
Ring of INT +2

Chest:

25gp
Scroll of Hammer of the Gods
Thieves Tools +10


The Dusty Tome may pay off!!??!! For the record, only 5 chests in the outside Area (there were 8 before the Rebalance).

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Steve wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:47 pm 2020/12/29—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 7th run after Loot Rebalance

Chest:

46gp
Bullets of Screaming - Sonic 1d4, On Hit Silence DC=14 50% / 2 rounds

Chest:
45gp
Light Shield +1

Chest:
38gp
Kukri +1
Fire Agate (lore appropriate!! LOL)

Fire Giant Mage drop:
Scroll of Gemidyans missile
Gauntlet - EB +1, Open Lock +1
Gauntly - AB+1

Chest (outside Beholder Cave):

889gp

Beholder drop:
Healer’s Kit +10

Beholder drop:
259gp

Beholder drop:
Banded Mail mundane

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
887gp

Gr. Fire Giant drop:
289gp

Chest:
1309gp
Scroll of Clairaudience

Chest:
26gp
Potion of Righteous Might



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Clothes - Improved Saving Throws Fear +3
Potion of Lesser Visage of the Diety
Shurikens - Vamp Regen +1

General’s big chest:
30gp
Potion of Protection from Energy
Alexandrite gem

Chest:
38gp
Epic Fire Trap (OMG…technically an epic item cause, you know…THE NAME!)

Chest:
Rapier - 60% of Weight

Chest:
49gp
Scroll of Energy Immunity

Stone Giant’s Chest:
53gp
Potion of Cure Serious Wounds


Not. Getting. Better.


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Steve wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:29 pm 2020/12/27—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 6th run after Loot Rebalance


Chest:
40gp
Scroll of Negative Energy Blast

Chest:
35gp
Half plate (mundane)

Chest:
738gp
Warriors Plate - AC +3, Bonus HP +15, STR +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Scroll of Rage
Average Electrical Trap
Potion of Cats Grace
Ring of Immunity to Lesser Dispel

Black Pudding Elder drop:
155gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
142gp
Padded Armor - Immunity to Lightning Bolt

Beholder Drop:
Torch

Beholder’s Cave Chest:
37gp
Potion of Battletide

Chest:
45gp
Uthgar’s Legacy book

Fire Giant drop:
340gp

Chest:
208gp

Chest:
56gp
Potion of Blurry Eyes
Scroll of Invisibility
Potion of Elemental Shield


Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Fire Giant General drop:
5124gp
Healer’s Kit +1
Potion of Lesser Spell Mantle
Improved Tanglefoot Bag
Helmet - Cold 10% Immunity, Will saves +1
Potion of Body of the Sun

Fire Giant General’s chest:
1287gp

Chest:
1935gp
Katana EB+2

Chest:
1332gp

Chest:
57gp
Healer’s Kit +6

Stone Giant drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell slot Cleric Level 1, Will +1, Immunity Finger of Death

Stone Giant drop:
Tanglefoot Bag (nice…lol)

Stone Giant’s Chest:

42gp
Potion of Elemental Shield

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
100gp


Diminishing returns. Best item is the Warriors Plate, however not Epic, and not useful to my PC.




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Steve wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:02 pm 2020/12/24—

Graypeaks (CR 27) with PC Lvl 30 Surface Aasimar (solo) — 5th run after Loot Rebalance


Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Crossbow bolts mundane
Tower Shield - Open Lock +2

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity: Slow

Chest:
43gp
Cloak - +3 Deflection, 10% Acid Immunity, 10% Fire Immunity
Strong Frost Trap

Chest:
46gp
Scroll of Summon Creature VI

Chest:
691gp

Chest:
698gp

Beholder (yellow name) drop:
209gp

Chest (outside Beholder’s Cave):
57gp
Copper Necklace
Scroll of Finger of Death

Elder Pudding drop:
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes EB +1, Mass cries 8
Quarterstaff - Spell Immunity Hammer of the Gods, SR 14

Chest (in Beholder’s Cave):
26gp
Purple Book of Dambrath History

Chest:
Longbow - EB+3

Chest:
53gp
Scroll of Banishment



Fire Giant General’s Cave—

Gr. Fire Elemental (yellow name) drop:
Deadly Holy Trap Kit
Silver Morningstar - Acid 10% Immunity, Alch. Silver
Quarterstaff - HP +3
Fire Bomb (straight out the arsenal!!!!)
Boots - CHA+1
Darksteel Chainmail = Acid 5/, 60% weight


Fire Giant General drop:
5000gp
Healer’s Kit +10
Throwing Axes - Vamp region +1

Chest (near throne):
43gp
Bone Wand

Chest:
44gp
Scroll of Phantom Bear

Chest:
902gp
Full plate AC +2
Kukri EB+1

Chest:
705gp
Boots of Speed - Haste (10) 3/day

Rat drop:
22gp

Fire Giant (yellow name) drop:
203gp
Kukri AB+1

Stone Giant’s Camp Chest:
916gp

Fire giant (yellow name) drop:
178gp
Arrows - Vamp region +1

Gr. Fire Elemental drop:
180gp

So, I got back to seeing 8 chests in the exterior of Graypeaks. Unfortunately, even less rewarding of a run than the previous runs, in terms of Items, though plenty of gold...which is still not what I'm loot-runnig for!! Coal for Christmas!!! lol.


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Re: Loot Rebalance

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RagingPeace wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:17 am
I noticed on the last 2 runs that a few chests were "missing," in that the first 2 runs had more chests, in more places. I know this reads like just another thing to complain about, but I'm simply reporting what I experience. I used to see 8 (?) chests in Graypeaks exterior. That last 2 runs had 6 and 5, the first 2 runs having 7 and 7.
Is this supposed to be happening? I Just had the same problem in the Frost Giant Castle, only one chest spawned, excluding the static bag and boss chests.
It's supposed to be randomized locations and plus/minus 1 chest from how it was.
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Re: Server split

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It's ready.
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Re: Loot Rebalance

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Nemni wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:52 pmIt's supposed to be randomized locations and plus/minus 1 chest from how it was.
If 1-3 of these chests are mimics - that leaves us with what ...?
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Re: Loot Rebalance

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Theodore01 wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:38 pm
Nemni wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:52 pmIt's supposed to be randomized locations and plus/minus 1 chest from how it was.
If 1-3 of these chests are mimics - that leaves us with what ...?
I asked about this very issue before.

Apparently the mimics spawn after the chests (or something to that effect) and are not included in the number of chests.

Another thing I can think of is that there might be some other nook or canny a chest spawned in that maybe you haven't found yet? That did happen to me in the UD. However, there have been a few runs where, looking through everything slowly, I still felt like I was a few chests short. So I'm not saying there is no shennanigans with the chest randomizer, but for the sake of gathering accurate data I'd try to make sure it's not pilot error creeping in either.
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Re: Server split

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That's incredible news.
So excited! :)
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Re: Server split

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This is getting deployed within the coming days. There might be some downtime or server interruptions, I'll start a sticky thread once the wheels are in motion to try to keep people as up to date as possible.

Expect some rough patches once it's up too, but we'll try to get things sorted in the coming days and weeks. :)
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Re: Loot Rebalance

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yyj wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:07 pm Though Ideally not gonna lie, it would be way better for epic area chest to be lootable from level 21 to 30. For the sake of variety.
All epic chests can be looted by a Lv30 character, you just won't get as great loot if you're looting a Lv21 chest with a Lv30 character. You can get good stuff, but you won't find epic loot there unless it's a boss chest.
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