Master Alchemist class

[OXHawkXO]

I have recently noticed some pretty drastic changes to the crafting of wands and elixir. I recall 1 spell costing 1800 XP to craft the wand. (Do you know how long it takes for a level 30 to RP or grind 1800 XP.) Not to mention the ludicrous amount of gold that goes along with the cost for some of the wands, elixirs or scrolls. Can we at least get a list of the gold and XP cost for every spell that can be crafted into a wand, elixir or scroll? I know that there are some spells that cannot be crafted at all. I have a great deal of time invested in the Master Alchemist class and when someone ask for a wand, elixir or a scroll, the only way I can give them a price is to craft the item. There have been a few times when they don't want the item after I tell them it will cost you 60000gp plus the cost of a bone wand. Surly a Master Alchemist would have this knowledge?

[renshouj]

1800 XP for a level 30 is probably about 24 ticks of RPEXP, so a few good minutes of conversation (most of it likely the actual trade RP)

also for the price, can't it be calculated by the formula provided in the wiki? (Caster Level * Spell Level * 750 gp)
you can also note down the costs after you make them, which yes does take making them, but if you're doing that anyway

also also, the exp cost can be determined by the gold cost (as in the wiki, the exp cost is the gold cost divided by 12.5)

[OXHawkXO]

Thanks for the quick response. I'm guessing that you have never RP'd a Master Alchemist. My last transaction took us about 30 minutes and ended without a sell. (What if they wanted multiple items like say 50 elixirs, and you had to wait until you could rest?), so I was stuck with a 45000gp Death Ward wand that I didn't need, and it only lasted 1 round. I tried to sell the wand in the auction for 57000gp and that would have netted me a very small profit if it sold and it did not! So, I might have gained a little EXP, but I lost a lot of gold.

[renshouj]

I just answered regarding costs, if your trade failed it sucks but it happens and hopefully with the costs clarified, you dont get into a situation where you craft a wand before confirming a purchase

edit: that said, wdym "lasting 1 round"??? The spell was adjusted to Min/LvL, and with the caster level of the wand it should at least last a few minutes.

[OXHawkXO]

Can we get a list of spells that can be crafted (wand, scroll or elixir)? Along with the cost in gold and experience points (since there is no set formula). Duration for wands would be handy as well. Like I said before it seems like a Master Alchemist would have this knowledge already. It would cost over a million in gold just to test every spell.

[MissClick]

Can we get a list of spells that can be crafted (wand, scroll or elixir)? Along with the cost in gold and experience points (since there is no set formula). Duration for wands would be handy as well. Like I said before it seems like a Master Alchemist would have this knowledge already. It would cost over a million in gold just to test every spell.

There are many posts like this that presently exist.

There is an entirely player-made one pinned in the gameplay section of the Tips & Tricks subforum: viewtopic.php?t=57467
And a full list on the wiki home page that includes prices: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... aftability

Some entries may be outdated in terms of spell availability and accessibility. Neither include XP requirements, as this was a more recent change. Anything missing would require another player to take the initiative and volunteer their time and knowledge to amend and/or document as this is not something typically provided.

[OXHawkXO]

Thank you. I must have overlooked it. Can we get an updated list please with duration?

[renshouj]

the duration is just the spell's duration, so go to the spell's page in the wiki (or just see it in game before you craft)

[OXHawkXO]

I have found that the duration for Death Ward is now 7 min. The spell description is 1 hour per CL. What other discrepancies can I expect to run into?

[renshouj]

Where have you read 1 hour per CL for Death Ward? The wiki has been correctly updated for almost a month now (1 min / CL), and so should the in-game spell description.

If you've encountered a place where it still says 1hr/CL, let me know so we can correct it. It's 1 min/CL.

[MasterSilke]

The in-game spell description still says 1 hour/level.

[renshouj]

@goat

[OXHawkXO]

Have you checked the level 4 cleric spell? I just did and it is still showing 1 hour per CL. That seem to be a pretty easy catch. I don't want this to come across as a vicious attack on anyone, but it just leads me to worry about what other spells might have been overlooked.

*All my post are human powered. There is no AI involved!*

[Goat]

Have you checked the level 4 cleric spell? I just did and it is still showing 1 hour per CL. That seem to be a pretty easy catch. I don't want this to come across as a vicious attack on anyone, but it just leads me to worry about what other spells might have been overlooked.

*All my post are human powered. There is no AI involved!*

It was just changed a couple weeks ago and hasn't been updated fully yeah - it's already in the next update though for the description just wasn't updated.