A Lore question about Tchazzar

[Whitenoisy]

Since the subject came up yesterday, and Heckalyn and I didn't know how to handle it due to potential divergences, or lack of clarity, within the lore, we thought it best to just seek a definitive response here in the forum.

Premise
Old Empires sets Tchazzar as the great hero and liberator of Chessenta, who ends up being worshiped as a god after his mysterious disappearance. It also states that, while his worshipers believe him to be a human, he was in fact secretly a Red Dragon running a social experiment in the hopes of achieving godhood... which he briefly did.
In the official lore, during the Time of Troubles, Tchazzar takes on one of the three pieces of Tiamat's divinity after she's smashed by Gilgeam; he eats the other two pieces, but this causes him to transform into the reborn Tiamat, which, as a collateral effect, kills him.
Later, according to Dragons of Faerun, Tiamat resurrects him in the last days of the Rage of Dragons, in 1373 DR, at which point he forcefully takes over Cimbar, and starts a campaign to re-unify Chessenta by force.

Question/s
At some unspecified point, Tchazzar's true identity is revealed to the general public, but the lore is not clear on when this happens. Also, since some of the canonical events, such as the ascension of Kelemvor, have been sped up on the server, but others, such as the rebirth of Bane, have not, we are also not sure whether Tchazzar's resurrection and return might have also happened early, or whether they are still 9 years into the future.
Given that our characters come from Cimbar, it would be of particular importance if their homeland had just been taken over by a red dragon, or not.

There might also be the matter of Cimbarians in 1373 DR readily accepting the Chaotic Evil red dragon as their legitimate ruler despite their culture being characterized as leaning Lawful Good, but that might just be an inconsistency between 2E and 3.5E lore...

Sources
Old Empires, pg.61
Lost Empires of Faerun, pg.43
Dragons of Faerun, pg. 9, 37-39, 91-92

[Riddance]

Well, according to wiki, which quotes very same books you mentioned:

In 1018 DR he rode alone to battle with raiding Sahuagin but his body was never found. Tchazzar had actually retaken his true form, slain the Sahuagin and sent visions of himself standing atop a pile of their corpses to the throne and council chambers of all Chessentan cities, telling his subjects that he'd "won his greatest victory". This inspired Chessentans into greater religious fervor for him, ensuring that the church of Tchazzar remained intact, even while his empire fractured without his leadership over the next decade

How I read it is that he revealed himself to be a dragon quite a time ago

On the side note, I will argue with Chessenta being a Lawful Good country, since they are more close to Thay with their slave policies and general Militarian culture


But I would rather let DMs have a final note because that directly will affect one of my characters too :/

[renshouj]

Need a DM to answer this, but that said, I'd like to bring attention to a relevant topic: PSA: On the in-character use of source books.

It's important to note the first couple of paragraphs, where it boils down to "Just because it's in a sourcebook (or the wiki) doesn't mean your character knows it".

[Whitenoisy]

Well, according to wiki, which quotes very same books you mentioned:

In 1018 DR he rode alone to battle with raiding Sahuagin but his body was never found. Tchazzar had actually retaken his true form, slain the Sahuagin and sent visions of himself standing atop a pile of their corpses to the throne and council chambers of all Chessentan cities, telling his subjects that he'd "won his greatest victory". This inspired Chessentans into greater religious fervor for him, ensuring that the church of Tchazzar remained intact, even while his empire fractured without his leadership over the next decade

How I read it is that he revealed himself to be a dragon quite a time ago

But I would rather let DMs have a final note because that directly will affect one of my characters too :/

Hmm, right. We usually don't go by the wiki, but if that's the case, then it might be known.

On the side note, I will argue with Chessenta being a Lawful Good country, since they are more close to Thay with their slave policies and general Militarian culture

Chessenta as a whole is definitely not, but Cimbar is explicitly stated as "probably best described as Lawful Good" in Old Empires, pg.51.

Need a DM to answer this, but that said, I'd like to bring attention to a relevant topic: PSA: On the in-character use of source books.

It's important to note the first couple of paragraphs, where it boils down to "Just because it's in a sourcebook (or the wiki) doesn't mean your character knows it".

Yes, agreed! The two of us assumed that our Pcs would NOT know of it, but if, for some reason, the revelation has become a fact known to the general population of Cimbar, which is the primary center of worship of Tchazzar, then we assume that they would have to know, since our characters mostly grew up there.

The confusion came because we were chatting about Cimbar with another pc, and the other pc asked us something along the lines of "So, you worship a red dragon, or something?", to which we weren't sure how to react In-Character. Eventually it was agreed to gloss over the subject, due to the uncertainty of it.