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Rope to Lizardman Eggs

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The rope people needs to swing across to get the lizardman eggs does a tremendous amount of damage, and I've seen it take people from full HP to nearly dead, repeatedly. I'm fine with the damage, but I think that, even if you fail, you should still get across. That tumble check should be "Get across safely vs. get across taking damage", not "Paladins without armor have a 75% chance of only taking damage and not even getting across". As it is right now, though, it's positively dreadful.
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Ya I have seen many players die from it. Low Dex no tumble characters be warned, a few thousand gold worth of kits were be the cost.
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AlwaysSummer Day wrote:Ya I have seen many players die from it. Low Dex no tumble characters be warned, a few thousand gold worth of kits were be the cost.
(( *Considers starting a service to D-door people to either side of the gap* ))
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Endelyon wrote:
AlwaysSummer Day wrote:Ya I have seen many players die from it. Low Dex no tumble characters be warned, a few thousand gold worth of kits were be the cost.
(( *Considers starting a service to D-door people to either side of the gap* ))
. . . genius
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You briefly touched upon it already. Armor makes the DC harder to beat. The same goes for shields. The DC is 15 IIRC, which may be bit too high considering the damage taken per swing. Changing it to something like 20% of current HP, minimum of 10, damage might be more appropriate.
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Any one can use gear to cross the swing. It is really easy to do. Though, I have seen plenty of folks die, but the dialog does warn them.
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Eclypticon wrote:Any one can use gear to cross the swing. It is really easy to do. Though, I have seen plenty of folks die, but the dialog does warn them.
(( Don't forget folks who have never put a point in tumble. If you don't train it at least once it's always 0. ))
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Endelyon wrote:
Eclypticon wrote:Any one can use gear to cross the swing. It is really easy to do. Though, I have seen plenty of folks die, but the dialog does warn them.
(( Don't forget folks who have never put a point in tumble. If you don't train it at least once it's always 0. ))
Boots of Tumbling fix that issue.
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Eclypticon wrote:
Endelyon wrote:
Eclypticon wrote:Any one can use gear to cross the swing. It is really easy to do. Though, I have seen plenty of folks die, but the dialog does warn them.
(( Don't forget folks who have never put a point in tumble. If you don't train it at least once it's always 0. ))
Boots of Tumbling fix that issue.
No it doesn't, if you have 0 tumble, you have 0 tumble, regardless of gear

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If you cant swing across the rope, you cant swing across the rope.
DC of 15 means you have a 25% success rate. With my chars who cant tumble, I analyzed the risk, and brought lots of heal packs and potions, including bears endurance. You only need 41 HP to survive, as the rope damage is 40.
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Re: Rope to Lizardman Eggs

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Looked this over in TS and reviewed comments.

May someday revisit this type challenge to use more/other skills and variable-ness.

Moving this in Solved since this in not a problem but instead a Feature.
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Pffft. Easy!

1: roll bard/fs.
2: get ress.
3: when they die and corpsify you carry them across and ressurect.
4: natrually demand payment both ways.
5: profit!

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Re: Rope to Lizardman Eggs

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I'd suggest that it's left as it is. If your character is a numpty who tries to swing over in plate armor and a shield then he deserves to die... :lol:

For a Paladin without Armor/Shield and even no Tumble gear, will have a 50% chance at level 9. At level 3/4 the chance of success would be 26.7%. Really, are you trying to go there at that level?
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I have no trouble with the rope and I have no tumble what so ever. Course I do have high dex... 8-)
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