BGTSCC Wiki reports - Bugs, outdated pages, duplicates, etc...

[renshouj]

In this thread, please post anything that refers to the wiki, including:

• Possible bugs
• Unused/outdated pages
• Missing information
• Duplicates
• Suggestions
• etc

If info is missing, it'd be of great help to post along a screenshot/text of the correct information.


Wiki link: HERE, or the button top left of the forums

Note: This is not a discussion thread, so keep it to the relevant information only.

[Goat_gurl]

I haven't seen this being posted before, I noticed that Disguise Other spell doesn't work as described on Wiki - https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Disguise_Other .

It says that the caster sets disguise for another creature and true, you can cast it only on others, not on yourself. After casting it, it brings up usual disguise toggle and after you set new name, sub race and gender, it applies the selected disguise to the caster, not the target of casting. I was really fired up about using it on other players and was kind of disappointed it doesn't work. Especially considering that simple Disguise Self wand costs only 750 gold and Disguise Other wand costs whopping 21 000 gold in comparison. Is it possible to fix the spell to work on other creatures instead of the caster?

[renshouj]

I haven't seen this being posted before, I noticed that Disguise Other spell doesn't work as described on Wiki - https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Disguise_Other .

It says that the caster sets disguise for another creature and true, you can cast it only on others, not on yourself. After casting it, it brings up usual disguise toggle and after you set new name, sub race and gender, it applies the selected disguise to the caster, not the target of casting. I was really fired up about using it on other players and was kind of disappointed it doesn't work. Especially considering that simple Disguise Self wand costs only 750 gold and Disguise Other wand costs whopping 21 000 gold in comparison. Is it possible to fix the spell to work on other creatures instead of the caster?

That's not a suggestion for the wiki, there's a post to report spell bugs.

[Goat_gurl]

Sorry, nevermind then.

[Louvaine]

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Bardic_Music is linked through main Bard page, yet those two don't correspond. I think that the one I linked is vanilla game and therefore not up to date for BG.

[Kitunenotsume]

Unused/Outdated Pages:

The third-party spam of User: Pages
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?searc ... fulltext=1

They are entirely (or almost entirely) spam and marketing pages and can be removed. Given the broad variety of content and advertisements they have, they will often show up when searching for other terms or concepts throughout the wiki, and contribute to organizational clutter despite being effectively orphaned. Because they are User: pages, they can only be deleted by a Wiki-admin, and not by community contributors such as myself.

[renshouj]

Unused/Outdated Pages:

The third-party spam of User: Pages
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?searc ... fulltext=1

They are entirely (or almost entirely) spam and marketing pages and can be removed. Given the broad variety of content and advertisements they have, they will often show up when searching for other terms or concepts throughout the wiki, and contribute to organizational clutter despite being effectively orphaned. Because they are User: pages, they can only be deleted by a Wiki-admin, and not by community contributors such as myself.

Yup I was given admin privileges so I can delete those. I deleted around 2500-3000 spam pages already, but seems I missed some! Thanks for pointing them out

[Louvaine]

Presumably, Curse Song page is up-to-date. I've yet to test the numbers, but they seem okay. The Bard page, however, doesn't mention this page at all. Instead, it points to https://nwn2.fandom.com/wiki/Curse_Song. Which contains the same information, but is from an outside source (nwn2.fandom.com).

Furthermore, It would be fantastic to see the dead links removed (for example, we already have information about Countersong and Inspire Courage, in their respective groups - Bardic Music and Bardic Inspiration, so we don't need those links that lead to nowhere) and others, not just bardic, removed (for example Shields, Zalantar and Arcane Spell Failure). That likely is a preference, so I'll leave the decision to you.

Lastly, the before mentioned Bard page doesn't make a mention of quite a few important pages: Epic Inspiration, Extra Music and Ability Focus - Bard Songs. I feel they are all very adequate and deserve a note, but that of course is up for debate.

[Louvaine]

viewtopic.php?p=960797#p960797
https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Dissonant_Chord

The wiki misunderstood and consequently slightly misrepresented the mechanism involved. Extra Music grants 4 songs, and your last regular song arrives at 20; thus, the correct prerequisite is 4 or more bardic PRC levels, and 20 or more bard levels. A minimum of 24 character levels is thus required to ever possibly qualify for a free Extra Music.

[Green Monster]

Suggest clarification on wiki entry and in-game spell description for Blindsight. Encountered a new player a while ago who thought that Blindsight granted the ability to see in the dark. Reading the wiki, I can see why he thought that. Suggest changing the wording from "and suffers no penalties for fighting or acting in total darkness" to something like "and, although it doesn't grant the ability to see in the dark, it does allow the recipient the ability to see through magical darkness".

[Louvaine]

Sneak Attack doesn't list Wilderness Stalker and Ghost-Faced Killer. It also refers to Master Spy as Master of Disguises.

[Louvaine]

Savras is all messed up.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Deity

[renshouj]

All above is corrected

[Louvaine]

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... _Alignment was changed a while back to be round/CL rather than hr/CL. Wiki is not yet updated to reflect it.

Edit: Found another -- https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... rb_of_Cold and https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... ld,_Lesser are doubles of the same. I suggest Lesser Orb of Cold is archived since all the other orbs are classified as Orb of [element], Lesser.

Another Edit: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... Deflection and https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Deflection are very misleading in their description. There are many similar spells, most of them Ranger/Paladin I think, that actually aren't meant to be cast, but instead they give you a feat that you can use while having the spell available to be cast (now that I think of it, they work similarly to Reserve Feats, don't they?). Maybe it's worth clarifying this. Let me know if I can help with any wording there, and I'll probably link the other spells I can find at some point (it's the smites and the arrows, afaik).

Another Another Edit: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Obscuring_Mist has nothing, is empty.

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[Steve]

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... _Alignment was changed a while back to be round/CL rather than hr/CL. Wiki is not yet updated to reflect it.

Edit: Found another -- https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... rb_of_Cold and https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... ld,_Lesser are doubles of the same. I suggest Lesser Orb of Cold is archived since all the other orbs are classified as Orb of [element], Lesser.

Another Edit: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title ... Deflection and https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Deflection are very misleading in their description. There are many similar spells, most of them Ranger/Paladin I think, that actually aren't meant to be cast, but instead they give you a feat that you can use while having the spell available to be cast (now that I think of it, they work similarly to Reserve Feats, don't they?). Maybe it's worth clarifying this. Let me know if I can help with any wording there, and I'll probably link the other spells I can find at some point (it's the smites and the arrows, afaik).

Another Another Edit: https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Obscuring_Mist has nothing, is empty.

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I attempted to address everything here with edits to the Wiki. However, some things I cannot do—like remove pages related to the Orbs, because even after years of being on BGTSCC and editing the Wiki, I'm not given adequate Rights to be able to better complete the work.

Thus, the Orbs issue is out of my hands. As for the Lesser Deflection and Deflection, I am personally unaware that they function as does the spell Sudden Aegis (https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Sudden_Aegis). I just need some confirmation (but honestly, all these spells that last one attack or one round are worthless on BGTSCC). Anyway...

Obscuring Mist is now described.